Lay In Wait
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Def Lepard Snare sound?
Just dug up the album "Hysteria"! Its been awhile! I got this song Im workin on and the snare sound on that album would work well in what Im workin on! It is just huge and warm, thats how I describe it anyway! It sounds like the snare is the same size as the kik drum,LOL! Any thoughts on eq,comp and reverb settings, or should I be looking for some other plug to get this sound? Thanx in advance!
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/21 08:37:33
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As I recall Mutt was a huge advocate of combining the raw unaffected snare track and a compressed and gated version of the same snare together and sending them both to their own buss and then Eq'ing them and compressing them again there and routing them to the drum submix
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/24 08:36:31
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Well you could either cut an arm off or analyze the latest Shania Twain record. I would compress the snare with a fast attack and play with the EQ till you get the proper "snap"......................JDW
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/25 00:38:01
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Def Leppard also used a gated reverse reverb on the snare quite a bit.
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/25 01:22:17
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ORIGINAL: Lay In Wait
Just dug up the album "Hysteria"! Its been awhile! I got this song Im workin on and the snare sound on that album would work well in what Im workin on! It is just huge and warm, thats how I describe it anyway! It sounds like the snare is the same size as the kik drum,LOL! Any thoughts on eq,comp and reverb settings, or should I be looking for some other plug to get this sound? Thanx in advance!
One thing to pay attention to is....Just like you said the snare sounds as big as the kik...when mxing treat each as if they have equal power in similar eq ranges... a l ittle extra high end in the kick and a little extra low end in the snare goes a long way...and extra low end in the reversed / gated verb.The reverb time is usually timed to nearly fill a quarter note space between kik and snare strikes on a basic 2 and 4 snare thing .....make sure it gates out just before the kik hit.
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/25 02:50:05
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reversed / gated verb How exactly do you do this?
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/25 03:42:56
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Don't waste your time. It's a drum machine snare (Oh, you think rock/metal bands never used drum machines? Surprise!)
I also believe this album was made right after Rick Allen's accident, which probably explains the use of a drum machine, but then the drums on "Pyromania" also sounded very drum machine-like.
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/26 19:56:28
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Sample it.
There has to be a clean snare hit somewhere on that album, so find it and swipe it - problem solved without wasting days with EQs and such.
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/26 21:18:57
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I remember back in the day that he played a Simmons kit live, who knows what samples he might have been triggering...
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/27 05:20:06
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I use my ears. For what?..............JDW
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2005/12/28 22:20:41
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Sample it.
There has to be a clean snare hit somewhere on that album, so find it and swipe it - problem solved without wasting days with EQs and such. Yeah man, good call! That's thinking outside the box (presuming the "sample" is short enough to be legal). - john
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2006/01/04 13:43:19
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ORIGINAL: Elson
Don't waste your time. It's a drum machine snare (Oh, you think rock/metal bands never used drum machines? Surprise!)
I also believe this album was made right after Rick Allen's accident, which probably explains the use of a drum machine, but then the drums on "Pyromania" also sounded very drum machine-like.
I know for a fact they (Mutt) used a drum machine on Pyromania. I don't know about "Hysteria"!
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2006/01/05 09:10:41
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Man, I used to love Def Leppard... Watching the Pour Some Sugar On Me Video, you see Rick's kit. It's all pads except the cymbals. I used to have a crappy casio with it's standard drum kit and the snare sounded just like Rick's snare. I bet if you find a synth drum sound and maybe layer it with a real drum sound recorded big you can get something cool out of it. There are plenty songs of theirs that the snare is isolated so you could in fact sample it, though I'm pretty sure the rule about a sample being short enough to be fair game is all myth. 
post edited by awfulfalafel - 2006/01/05 09:14:09
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2006/01/05 09:34:37
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ORIGINAL: awfulfalafel
There are plenty songs of theirs that the snare is isolated so you could in fact sample it, though I'm pretty sure the rule about a sample being short enough to be fair game is all myth.
That's why you should take the sample of the Def Leppard snare and mix it with another real snare or a synth drum sound like you said...then it would no longer be the same sample - it would be something new and completely different. As bad as this may sound ethically speaking...if you dont tell - no one will ever know or be able to prove you sampled the def leppard snare since you are essentially making a hybrid sound.
post edited by RAiN0707 - 2006/01/05 09:38:16
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RE: Def Lepard Snare sound?
2006/01/05 10:52:06
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