doncolga
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Delay and Panning Approach
Do any of you all just take an audio track, clone it, then slide the timing a little to get your delays, then pan as you like? Unless I'm just missing it, I don't see where panning of delays can be adjusted in the stock Sonar plugins...they appear to be fully left and right. Any advantages or disadvantages on the first approach? Seems it would just be handy to be able to position the delayed signal wherever you'd like it the stereo field. I hope I've just over looked something in the Sonitue or Cakewalk delays.
post edited by doncolga - 2013/08/01 08:38:47
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 08:42:07
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Waves S-1 Imager. Not the Shuffler... the "Imager".
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 10:32:41
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typically, you clone a track, and hard pan it opposite of the original..
and slide as far as you need to get the appropriate delay effect...
but i use stereo delays (waves supertap) to do this, and turn off one side, and simply pan the effect wherever i want.
typically, i want the delay panned straight up, so i use a mono delay, and pan the original wherever it needs to be in the mix.
i mean, you can clown-phuck it to death, and in the end, it mostly sounds watered down.
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 11:03:37
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Don, I've used that method many times, mostly for vocal effects. The big advantage is that you can treat the echoes any way you want, including EQ, pan automation, distortion, chorusing, reverb or another delay. AFAIK only one delay plugin in the world (FabFilter's Timeless2) offers comparable flexibility, and even that one can't do everything that the clone-and-nudge method can do.
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doncolga
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 11:10:53
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Thanks for the responses guys. Before now, I've not really, really played with panning and imaging like I should have. I did last night and I was thrilled with the sounds I was getting...much richer. Looking forward to hopping on Sonar this evening.
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 12:04:03
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Is this not something you could achieve with Channel Tools?
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 12:05:45
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Channel Tools?...what's that?
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 12:28:16
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 12:49:00
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doncolga
Channel Tools?...what's that?
Have a look in the Cakewalk effects. You can control the width of the stereo field as well as setting delays for either the left or right channels.
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Re: Delay and Panning Approach
2013/08/01 13:28:40
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bitflipper
AFAIK only one delay plugin in the world (FabFilter's Timeless2) offers comparable flexibility, and even that one can't do everything that the clone-and-nudge method can do.
The Waves multi-tap delay (whatever it's called) has individual pan settings for each of the six taps (if that's the right term). I'd expect most multi-tap delays to offer the same. But most delays don't ... and probably should IMO. After all, how difficult is panning to add as a feature?
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