Delay compensation? Something else? What's causing my tracks to be out of sync??

Is the second synth using Bitbridge? It's got an issue where it adds an empty buffer of audio to the stream with some synths, making the audio noticeably late unless your buffer is very small. I originally thought this only happened on freezing/bouncing, but now I think it can happen in real-time, too.

Jbridge doesn't exhibit this problem.

Aside from that, Session Drummer is not the tightest player in the band when playing patterns internally. I think you'll get better results if you drag the pattern to a MIDI track, and turn off the pattern player. 

adrian4u


maybe it has something to do with MIDI or VST buffer?
I remember I had such problems (and dropping notes) when VST buffer was to small.

How do I change the VST buffer? Now other synth tracks are not syncing, like my Z3TA synth track is not in sync with the kick drum, it is a tad ahead/behind (can't tell). Help!

"It's a reported bug that Sonar is not adjusting recorded midi clips according to used delay compensation at recording time."


Wow.. we have to use a work around just to use SONAR X1 as a basic sequencer?

Good to know.


I wonder how many folks do?

I wonder how many folks don't know.... that probably should.




best regards,
mike

I found a bug with tracks going out of sync with the media browser open.. If you have a project that has alot going on, and your playing back and auditioning loops , not only sometimes the loops your auditioning plays out of sync, some tracks play out of sync while the browser is open, I know this because simply closing the browser stops the tracks from going out of sync.. When Ever I hear out of beat tracks closing the browser fixs this issue..  
 Also the media browser still has problems playing back loops at host tempo. There's still something out of wack deep inside..

lfm

mike_mccue


"It's a reported bug that Sonar is not adjusting recorded midi clips according to used delay compensation at recording time."


Wow.. we have to use a work around just to use SONAR X1 as a basic sequencer?

Good to know.


I wonder how many folks do?

I wonder how many folks don't know.... that probably should.




best regards,
mike

Usually while recording midi tracks you don't really need so much delaying plugins running and you might not never encounter it. Just bypass whatever is not needed or mute tracks not needed for that take. But it's good to be aware of it.

I'm thinking of a brand new project with one person playing a piano patch in Kontakt and another person playing Guitar Rig with fancy sounding patch.

Two tracks... one MIDI one Audio.... and when you are done you have to start nudging to search for sync??? Yikes.


Thanks for making me aware.


very best regards,
mike

Might as well at that point.

:-)

mike_mccue


"It's a reported bug that Sonar is not adjusting recorded midi clips according to used delay compensation at recording time."


Wow.. we have to use a work around just to use SONAR X1 as a basic sequencer?

I would not call recording with PDC compensation enabled on one track and override enabled on another (do other DAWs even have this feature?) "basic sequencing". But I do think it is a significant and perplexing oversight that needs to be fixed.

that syncing feeling...

a great big dialog window should pop up and tell you not to expect good results.

That dialog pops up in my frontal lobe every time I add a plug the requires PDC; I don't need one on the screen. 


There are probably hundreds of situations in which SONAR could pop-up a dialog in an attempt to save a user from himself. The problem is every user has a different level of knowledge of how the app works. Would you want a dialog popping up every time you enable input monitoring: "Warning: Feedback could result from this action if any of the following 37 conditions exist in your project or external hardware configuration..."?

I'm just kidding, of course, but in a way, modern DAW recording really is Rocket Science to an extent, and you have to know how things work on a very deep level to avoid problems in some circumstances. Using plugs that require PDC, and having it work as expected with all possible permutations and combinations of recording and playback of live and recorded audio and MIDI (driving either software or hardware synths) with or without override enabled is one of those areas where you really need to have a deep understanding of DAW technology.