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Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too!

Wow!

So many little details making this a much more comfortable environment for me...

Now we can click anywhere in a clip and it both selects the clip as well as sets the now time locator (as in the old days). A Dbl-Click opens the PRV and "nothing is selected"! What a relief! I can't count how often I have to undo/redo my first motion in X1's PRV as I continually forget that all notes are selected... 

New draw note function is fast and easy and the timeline drag-zoom is being so very handy! the auto-snap looks as tho it's gonna be very fast for a lot of work too... I can hardly wait!

I must admit that I'm having a lot of fun with so many things in X2.... Having the FX Chains in PC so we can now interleave our VST's with the PC modules... Outstanding! (Tho I use very little other than the PC modules lately)...

So not much I can do with this machine yet as I'm running the internal chip set for audio while I await the arrival of a new audio interface... It should be here by the middle of next week!

I've got a long way to go getting up to speed in X2 and used to all the new abilities... but so far the changes feel so natural to me they feel like old shoes!

Many Thanks Bakers! You listened... You heard... You excelled!  Kudos Galore!

Too bad you didn't include SonarPlus built in with it as those are a few items still missing from the build... But it appears that there is a new Duck on the horizon to address those issues (and more) for us!

Thanks You All!

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/01 22:58:15 (permalink)
    I agree Keni. I'm loving X2 so far.

    I recently moved and don't have a place to record set up yet, but I've been remixing some old projects, and doing some new midi ones on my headphones, and I haven't had a single hiccup so far (after the Quick Fix).

    PRV got flaky on me once, but only once, and hasn't happened since.

    You know all those problems I had with X1, and everyone said it was my system? Well, funny how X2 seems to have fixed all those Pro Channel and instability problems, isn't it?

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 00:30:41 (permalink)
    Glad all is going well with SX2 for you guys. I too had a great session and quite a long run this past weekend. Before the patch I had one crash in SX2 (x64 bit) while adjusting some settings in pro channel but since installing the quick fix patch SX2 has been rock solid for me. The only problem I'm still having is with Rapture Pro (x64). The box to enter my serial number is grayed out even with "run as admin" selected. Rap Pro LE is fine and both versions of Rapture are working in SX2 32 bit. I think I read where the bakers are working on a fix. I hope they come up with one soon as I don't want to re-install anything again. I might break something else...

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 00:45:24 (permalink)
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     A Dbl-Click opens the PRV and "nothing is selected"! What a relief! I can't count how often I have to undo/redo my first motion in X1's PRV as I continually forget that all notes are selected... 

    Holy crap that was annoying. I did that every time. Open piano view, move a note, they all moved. Curse myself. CTRL-Z. 
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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 10:26:48 (permalink)
    I think we've got a winner in X2! So far there have been very few bugs or complaints.... I'm guessing these little hangs will soon be resolved as it should be easy for The Bakers to focus on so few issues...

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 14:18:30 (permalink)
    It's good to see that X2 is working so well for you, Keni!   I know you had some doubts in X1 but plowed ahead anyway, so it's nice to see that it's paying off now.   Have you played around with the new automation lanes at all?    Just curious.
     
     
     
    You know all those problems I had with X1, and everyone said it was my system? Well, funny how X2 seems to have fixed all those Pro Channel and instability problems, isn't it?

     
    Bub, see Mudgel's posts, he seems to be experiencing the same thing.  
     
    Though I never had many problems with X1 myself, the overall X2 experience is still so much better than X1.   It really is a "better feeling" version to me in pretty much every way.  
     

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 15:03:53 (permalink)
    Have you guys noticed, clicking on a track in track view while working in Piano View, resets the piano view's zoom to minimum and the player to 0. (in piano view)

    EDIT: pressing play sets the marker back to the now time, so the reset is a moment's frustration but fixes itself. The zoom issue though remains.
    post edited by Transcending Music - 2012/10/02 15:18:54

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 19:26:03 (permalink)
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    It's good to see that X2 is working so well for you, Keni!   I know you had some doubts in X1 but plowed ahead anyway, so it's nice to see that it's paying off now.   Have you played around with the new automation lanes at all?    Just curious.
     
     
     

    You know all those problems I had with X1, and everyone said it was my system? Well, funny how X2 seems to have fixed all those Pro Channel and instability problems, isn't it?

     
    Bub, see Mudgel's posts, he seems to be experiencing the same thing.  
     
    Though I never had many problems with X1 myself, the overall X2 experience is still so much better than X1.   It really is a "better feeling" version to me in pretty much every way.  
     


    Hi Steve...

    Thanks... I haven't put it thru any real work yet, so there may be "issues", but feature-wise, it's much more what I expected X1 to be and remained shocked and pained at it's initial release... Many things improved withthe point releases, but these issues were still a pain... No longer!

    I can't do any real-work testing for another week or so as I'm awaiting my interface and running at 72ms latency with the built-in Realtek chip set is just too un-real! ;-)

    These items I've mentioned are such in-your-face items that the relief is astounding!

    I did play with the lanes a little and tho I'm definitely not a fan of lane-style work in general, the implementation in X2 might be just the "hybrid" to work for me... But I still would like to have pop-ups of the envelopes names with a mouse-over.... that's still something missing... Time will tell if my opinion and work habits change in this regard... Right now I'm feeling so good about the choices made for X2 that I'm hoping to find lanes a good thing when implemented in this way! ;-)

    What about you? Have you made the change yet?

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 19:28:25 (permalink)
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    Have you guys noticed, clicking on a track in track view while working in Piano View, resets the piano view's zoom to minimum and the player to 0. (in piano view)

    EDIT: pressing play sets the marker back to the now time, so the reset is a moment's frustration but fixes itself. The zoom issue though remains.


    Hi...

    Are you using the PRV in the multidock? I haven't noticed such a problem (yet) using the PRV as non-floating, full-screen...

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/02 19:42:34 (permalink)
    I'm happy too.

    Remember left click + right click and right click + left click for undo/redo
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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 00:35:23 (permalink)
    Thanks... I haven't put it thru any real work yet, so there may be "issues", but feature-wise, it's much more what I expected X1 to be and remained shocked and pained at it's initial release... Many things improved with the point releases, but these issues were still a pain... No longer!
    ...These items I've mentioned are such in-your-face items that the relief is astounding!

     
    I agree 100%.  X2 has so many things that may not sound like much on paper but in normal use are just great.
     
     
    I can't do any real-work testing for another week or so as I'm awaiting my interface and running at 72ms latency with the built-in Realtek chip set is just too un-real!

     
    Uh... yeah, that could be a little difficult.  
     
     
    I did play with the lanes a little and tho I'm definitely not a fan of lane-style work in general, the implementation in X2 might be just the "hybrid" to work for me... But I still would like to have pop-ups of the envelopes names with a mouse-over.... that's still something missing... Time will tell if my opinion and work habits change in this regard... Right now I'm feeling so good about the choices made for X2 that I'm hoping to find lanes a good thing when implemented in this way! ;-) What about you? Have you made the change yet?

     
    I haven't really "switched" to lanes at this point, but I have been using them to see whether they'll work for me in certain cases.  Right now I find them most useful for tracks that have more than 3-4 envelopes or envelopes that occupy a similar space.  Lanes seem to make it much simpler to see what's what and select the right envelope in those scenarios.  As far as mouse-over goes, I'm pretty sure I've seen that...  It's probably a modifier key (Shift, Ctrl or Alt) + Hover to see them.
     
    Now I need to see if I can make use of the little sliders at the end of each lane... 
     

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 03:42:41 (permalink)
    I just mentioned in another thread that one of the features of the new PRV that I absolutely love is the horizontal aim-assist.



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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 04:06:49 (permalink)
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    I just mentioned in another thread that one of the features of the new PRV that I absolutely love is the horizontal aim-assist.


    It is rather handy. What is cool is its something we as users should have asked for but I for one never thought of it. Clearly CW did realize its usefulness.

    I also have to agree with Keni that the PRV is superb. I think at present its the best in the industry.

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 08:59:31 (permalink)
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    Have you guys noticed, clicking on a track in track view while working in Piano View, resets the piano view's zoom to minimum and the player to 0. (in piano view)

    EDIT: pressing play sets the marker back to the now time, so the reset is a moment's frustration but fixes itself. The zoom issue though remains.


    Hi...

    Are you using the PRV in the multidock? I haven't noticed such a problem (yet) using the PRV as non-floating, full-screen...

    Keni



    Hey Keni,

    Yea in the multi-dock. It seems you need several MIDI tracks open and try clicking between them a few times until it happens. I tested in floating as well. In X1 this is not an issue. 



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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 12:29:51 (permalink)
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      I haven't really "switched" to lanes at this point, but I have been using them to see whether they'll work for me in certain cases.  Right now I find them most useful for tracks that have more than 3-4 envelopes or envelopes that occupy a similar space.  Lanes seem to make it much simpler to see what's what and select the right envelope in those scenarios.  As far as mouse-over goes, I'm pretty sure I've seen that...  It's probably a modifier key (Shift, Ctrl or Alt) + Hover to see them.
     
    Now I need to see if I can make use of the little sliders at the end of each lane... 
     

    Yeah... I'm wondering what/how the do/work too! ;-)

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 12:31:33 (permalink)
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    I just mentioned in another thread that one of the features of the new PRV that I absolutely love is the horizontal aim-assist.


    I have yet to learn/understand exactly what AIM assist is? Care to chat a bit?

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 12:34:19 (permalink)
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    Have you guys noticed, clicking on a track in track view while working in Piano View, resets the piano view's zoom to minimum and the player to 0. (in piano view)

    EDIT: pressing play sets the marker back to the now time, so the reset is a moment's frustration but fixes itself. The zoom issue though remains.


    Hi...

    Are you using the PRV in the multidock? I haven't noticed such a problem (yet) using the PRV as non-floating, full-screen...

    Keni



    Hey Keni,

    Yea in the multi-dock. It seems you need several MIDI tracks open and try clicking between them a few times until it happens. I tested in floating as well. In X1 this is not an issue. 


    Hi TM...

    Probably be a good idea to tell them that along with the Problem Report... It probably has to do with changing window focus issues or some such as I don't experience (not yet?) that using the non-floated/full-screen PRV...

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 13:09:47 (permalink)
    I have yet to learn/understand exactly what AIM assist is? Care to chat a bit?

     
    Keni, in the TV Aim Assist is the dashed vertical line that follows your cursor.  It literally "assists your aim" for aligning things that aren't right on top of each other; e.g., the end of one clip with another a few tracks above or below.  
     
    That's in the PRV as well, but now there's also the horizontal aim assist which is the light blue band that moves from note to note, helping to see at a glance which note you're about to place/edit.    So the PRV now does this in both directions, almost like a full view cross-hair of sorts.  Just nicer looking.  
     

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    Re:Delighted with MIDI/PRV Changes in X2! Other changes too! 2012/10/03 16:43:44 (permalink)
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    Have you guys noticed, clicking on a track in track view while working in Piano View, resets the piano view's zoom to minimum and the player to 0. (in piano view)

    EDIT: pressing play sets the marker back to the now time, so the reset is a moment's frustration but fixes itself. The zoom issue though remains.


    Hi...

    Are you using the PRV in the multidock? I haven't noticed such a problem (yet) using the PRV as non-floating, full-screen...

    Keni



    Hey Keni,

    Yea in the multi-dock. It seems you need several MIDI tracks open and try clicking between them a few times until it happens. I tested in floating as well. In X1 this is not an issue. 


    Hi TM...

    Probably be a good idea to tell them that along with the Problem Report... It probably has to do with changing window focus issues or some such as I don't experience (not yet?) that using the non-floated/full-screen PRV...

    Keni

    Indeed, I reported it to them. It could also be with certain VSTi's open, for example I had Kontakt 4 open as the only plugin running. 

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