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Dell Hard Drive Failure [Solved]
I have the XPS 8100, 1.5TB HD, 8GB Mem The hard drive failed so I went and picked up a new Barracuda (same specs as original but 2 TB) I replaced the HD and cannot get it to load up recovery disks. On power up I hit F12 and boot from CD/DVD It will show extracting Windows files from disk but quits and goes to sleep Any ideas or pointers?
post edited by digi2ns - 2012/12/07 08:41:33
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 15:39:33
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Probably because your recovery disks are on a hidden partition on your original drive?
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 15:48:49
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The original HD is removed and replaced. After installing the new HD, do I just boot from the DVDs I made for recovery when I first bought the computer. Ive never replaced a hard drive before
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 15:51:15
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The computer sees the new HD It came with a disk with drivers and other software on it but Windows has to be up to use it if needed. Being its seeing the HD Im not sure but I dont think I need that disk with the drivers
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 16:44:26
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If the Dell has more then one video port (vga, dvi, etc) try switching monitor around if you can. May be pumping video out the wrong adapter port.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 17:24:52
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Thanks Ill give that a shot Was taking a stress relief nap from fighting with it I report back later
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 18:42:53
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OK I swapped to the other monitor (DVI) connection Really no change I retried again and this is what I observed Powered down, Powered on hit F12 and went into boot option inserted disc 1 of 2 for recovery screen showed - Windows is loading files Windows normal boot up screen (with the 3 swirling balls) displayed then Dell Data Screen came up for Recovery I selected the option to put back to Factory It took off thinking and the monitor went to sleep at 24% complete The DVD drive popped open after a little bit and I inserted disk 2. (Monitor still asleep) It is down there still running away with monitor asleep. Will check on it in a bit to see if any changes. Not sure if anything is going right with the monitor asleep (is sleeping normal or is there a way to stop it so I can see whats going on?) Hopefully this will work
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 19:22:42
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OK 2nd DVD ran and finally ejected. Monitor still sleeping so not sure what its doing. (Havent hit any keys, I did shake mouse but no waking up) There is a Yellow LED glowing on the MOBO and has been since the original HD Failure. (Not sure if thats any indicator. There is a small white LED in the card reader on the front of the housing showing it thinking (flickers and go solid on here and there. I let it sit to see if anything changes, fans are still running fast at this time.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 19:27:17
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Mike - I looked at the spec's on your system and it appears there is an pci-e video card but possibly also a built in vga on the motherboard (H67 chipset). Sometimes Dell hides the on-board vga port behind a black snap-on cap. It's possible that once windows loads it's loading drivers and switching to the on-board vga port. Don't know if that is what is happening to you but it's happened to me before. Good Luck Steve
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 19:34:38
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I seen a black cap on the back, Ill give it a check and see Ill have to find my DVI/VGA genderbender and give it a shot in the morning-my heads had about all it can take tonight LOL Thanks a bunch Steve
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/06 21:05:15
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Well I had a second wind hit and went to check it out, there is an extra DVI connection under the cap, I swapped to that port-no change, HD is still thinking away, I think.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 00:40:54
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Ah, I don't think unfortunately that recovery disk make it. You would need a complete back up which with mine takes at least about 10 DVD disk, for the complete OS. If you can stick in the old harddisk that failed as a second harddisk, perhaps you can get to the files on there and if you have a backup stored there (compressed probably) then perhaps you can get the OS on your new hard drive. Without that, I think you will have to get ahold of Dell and see if they have a backup for your computer that would load the OS and put it on the new harddrive. Without that, I think, you are probably screwe*. That is one reason that I partition harddisk drives. Usually the C:\ partition (the one with the OS) is the one that fails, not the complete hard disk (it's failing because it can not read any info on the disk). With other partitions storing a compressed backup of the OS or even non-compressed (which takes up way more room) then essentially you have no OS files you can access to restore your OS with the recovery disk. Recovery is recovery of a OS that already exists. Backup the complete OS on DVD's or on another partition of the harddrive and put the OS back on the C:\ drive of the new disk because the old disk failed on that primary partition. Sorry about that, but that would be the way that it is.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 00:51:29
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Before you would get a Windows OS DVD with the computer, with a newer computer, you do not get a disk (as I now have a computer without a Windows OS DVD after buying a Windows 7 computer. But I have partitioned my harddisk drive to several partitions (different Drive letter like F:, G:, H:, I:, and store a complete back up of the OS on one of those partitions. If the hard disk fails, I will perhaps use the recovery disk to read the backup on a partition that still can be read if put in as a second harddrive to mount the OS backup to the new hard drive. Otherwise you need to have all of that on DVD disk (which I still have to do as I stopped at Disk 4, and estimated that it would take around 10 DVD disk and some hours to make a complete backup of the OS on DVDs. I pretty sure that you have something to start up the computer but you are not recovering an OS that is on the hard disk, you are trying to put the complete OS on a new hard disk and with that you do not have it anywhere to do that with. I still would try and read the failed hard disk (by putting it back into the computer as a second harddisk) to see if you can access the files if possible to get the OS on the new hard-disk drive. That is all I can suggest. If you have a sticker on the side of your machine, then the number for the OS may be on that (I don't even think I have one on my new computer though - a Gateway, and I know I have one on my old computer yet to this day). ?? Otherwise it's call or e-mail Dell and see if they can suggest anything.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 01:07:43
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And actually I just bought a second new hard disk drive just for that main purpose, to store a compressed back up of the OS completely on that drive. If the first hard disk fails, then the second hard disk will be moved to be the first hard disk, but since it has no OS on it and only a back up, then I hope the recovery disk start up the computer and then restore the backup of the OS to what will not be the J:\ drive letter (as the second hard disk partition would probably start at and if a couple of partition be like J:\, K:\, etc.) but now be the C:\ primary partition (because the first partition is always or can be made as the Primary Partition (which is needed - the rest of it if not making the entire hard disk as a partition because if not using all of the harddisk the rest of it becomes a Extended Partition (all formatted) and then that will be the main hard disk until replacing the failed hard disk. Hope that is not all confusing to you.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 01:09:30
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Oops or actually the second hard disk will have the backup of the OS to put on a new first hard disk then with the recovery disks. Well, however it works which is what one has to do, make it work to restore the OS.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 01:19:17
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Don't know Mike.. Probably need to call dell. While it might be looking for a recovery partition, 2 DVD's should be enough for a system recovery to factory. What happens when you reboot?
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 01:20:36
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And just again thinking about it, Dell will probably want you to take your computer to a authorized Dell place or send the computer back to them, and hopefully you registered your computer so they have you are file as registered. I'm done, because that is what companies started doing - not supplying a Windows OS disk with the computer anymore. Blah!
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 01:24:09
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Ah, Windows 7 takes around 40Gb and my back up on my computer (without really any programs there yet, just the OS mainly) is a 61.4Gb file compressed. That was with Windows 7 Backup and also the new Acronis program I got with the Seagate hard drive I just bought, both were a file around 61.4Gb. That is more than 2 DVD's, and like I said before - probably 10 or more DVDs, storing the OS on DVDs and not the hard drive.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 01:52:58
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It's late so I'm probably misunderstanding, but I believe Mike is trying to run the System Recovery DVD's that the dell utility created for him (basically a recovery partition on DVD's) and not a backup restore (tho that would have been nice to have). Windows 7 install files easily fit on one DVD. But even if the DVD's work you may have a problem in that the partitions might install to be the same size as on the old hard drive (because they were a partition image) instead of expanded to fit the 1TB new drive. Let us know what dell has to say.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 05:44:59
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Mike, you might be faced with having to buy a copy of Windows & and doing a fresh install onto your new HDD And then reinstall all of your music software - but there's nothing quite like a completely fresh install of everything!
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 06:35:53
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If the original hard drive is gone you will have to reinstall with a Windows 7 disc and the drivers downloaded from the Dell downloads. When I worked on the Dell users support forum this was the procedure that needed to be used, if the user did not create a full hard drive (all partitions) backup with a program such as Acronis True Image. http://techpp.com/2009/11/11/download-windows-7-iso-official-direct-download-links/ You can download an iso version of Win 7 (download the exact same version you have, e.g. Win 7 64 bit) burn an iso DVD. You can use the Win 7 product key from the tag on the PC. If you don't have a DVD burning program that will burn an iso, download the free Imgburn. Win 7 will install many drivers, however with the Dell prorietary OEM hardware some will not be correct, such as you will need the Dell sound driver. Whatever drivers are needed you can download from www.support.dell.com use your service tag number to access the downloads. The "My Dell Downloads" will have any applications or utilities (e.g. whatever CD/DVD burning program that came with the PC).
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 06:52:15
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Good Morning and thanks everyone!!! Ill get hard at it this morning and keep you posted Really appreciate the comments and help on this
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 07:11:25
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 08:40:07
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GREAT NEWS!!! Not sure what all the sleeping was with the monitor but.... After yesterdays attempts and the final loading of the Recovery DVDs I posted and letting it sit all night, something apparently took. When I went and checked it this morning it was still sitting there spinning away with the monitor asleep. I hit the power button to see if it would power itself down, no change. After watching it for a while after hitting the power button, I killed the main to my power conditioner and let it set until all the LEDs died. Powered it back on and up came Windows with the First Time Use setup screen. Followed the on-screen setup and its up and running. I went in once Windows was back to a fresh clean install and running good and made new discs for Recovery. The disks I have now Recovery-2 DVDs System Repair-1 DVD System Image-4 DVDs So in short-NOT sure what was happening but it finally worked out THANKS EVERYONE for the thoughts and help!!! Im off to get a second 2TB Barracuda and hopefully its install for extra storage will be MUCH easier
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 09:58:08
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I would get a backup program, such as Acronis True Image (very popular) and first make a full backup of the hard drive (all partitions) to a separate hard drive. Then do periodic (full) backups. If the drive would either fail or just corrupt its an easy task to completely restore back to the status of the last backup. No more lost recording sessions, user data, programs, etc.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 10:04:38
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Thanks Fire!!! Yeh Ive been seeing alot on here about Acronis. I believe that exactly what Im going to do. With the 2nd 2 TB HD installed for all the WAV files, etc... Would that be a good place to store it or should I do something different. I do have an extra space for a 3rd internal HD or I have an eSATA port on the back, but if it will work good on my storage one, Id like to stick with that.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 10:14:22
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Glad you're up and running Mike.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 10:48:23
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tKx5050 Glad you're up and running Mike. Thanks & Thanks for the inputs
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 13:25:54
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Good to hear, and yes there are "Power Settings" or sleep mode settings you can get up in Windows. One is "Never Off" or something like that where the monitor never goes off or into sleep mode, like anything else, like moving the mouse to wake up the computer. I never have the computer turn off into sleep mode - I have it "Shut Down" completely. For a hard disk, you can have it sleep say after 20 minutes of non-use to help preserve the hard disk so it is not on all the time. The rest of the computer you can set to never go into sleep mode, but that is me, I turn off my computer when I am not using it by shutting it down and not having anything go into sleep mode except the hard disk which is powered down if not using it.
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Re:Dell Hard Drive Failure
2012/12/07 13:33:04
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Acronis (version lite supplied with the new hard disk drive from Seagate I just bought works well enough if not wanting to spring for the full program) works well, but Windows 7 also has a backup program that works about the same to store an image somewhere - second hard disk drive, DVDs and a lot of them, or removeable drive but that would also take up a lot of memory disk to use. D:\ drive is my DVD-rom drive, E:\ drive is the removeable storage USB type drive, and that is why when I make partitions on the hard drive by "shrinking" the original primary partition down in Windows by "Managing" the computer (right click on "Computer" and making sure it is "Defrag" ing the hard drive to "Shrink the hard disk partition in the first place (it may take several times of using Defrag before you can Shrink how they set it up in the first place) then that is the way I handle it, but how you handle it will be up to you. I need some coffee right now to fully wake up, Bye!
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