boseyman1
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/07 12:31:36
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I was a Digital Performer user because that is what they forced us to use in Music School. I was also a Logic User for several years, so I basically knew several "mac" programs very well. I then went to work for a film composer who is sponsored by Cakewalk. He showed me how he used the program, so I tried it and found it to be much faster for Film and TV work. I have scored 9 features films using Sonar 5, and have a film opening nationwide July 27th, where the entire score was done using Sonar 5 and 6 PE. I think you have a great program.
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/07 16:01:17
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I started with CEP 2.1 and moved to all the upgrades thru Adobe Audition 2.0. I've been pretty satisfied with AA as far as Audio but along the way I began to need midi support so I purchased MC3 to fill that gap, hoping AA would at some point add midi support along with VSTi support. Recently I purchased Sonar 6PE partly for the above reasons to have what I need in one integrated app, but the most important reason was after the release of AA 2.0 and the total lack of support in fixing fairly major issues with the software in over a year without so much as a "were working on it" I decided I'd waited long enough and went with Sonar. Other major reasons I went with Sonar were: Downloadable fully functional demo, I may well have gone with Sonar from the start had this been available when I was evaluating CEP, and other DAW software. At least from the outside looking in, developers who are more in touch with their users and better support of the products. No Ilok/PACE More flexible routing Better performance with same track/effect count than AA More features to grow with as I need them. I don't use virtual syth's etc. at this point, but I didn't use midi either when I started, so it's nice to have support for virtual instruments etc. available. Dan
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/07 20:04:24
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I recently switched to Sonar from Cubase (longtime user). I bought Sonar 6 PE. The impetus for the switch was: 1.) I bought a custom built audio computer and was at a crossroads as to whether or not to upgrade to the new Cubase 4, due to increasing concerns about dongles degrading performance, stability issues etc etc. 2.) Steinberg's "customer service" (I use that term loosely) leaves something to be desired. I was increasingly unhappy with the direction the company was going in. 3.) Sonar's native VST support (a must have for me - wasn't keen on the whole wrapper thing in previous versions). 4.) Cakewalk's stellar support/updates/upgrade cycle. 5.) Attractive crossgrade offer. As a longtime Cubase user, I wasn't happy about feeling the need to switch and learn a whole new host program, but for the most part, Sonar has been reasonably easy to get a handle on. Still can't work out why one can't just double click the name of the tracks and change them though. Inserting soft synths, freeze and adding effects is much less convoluted than in Cubase, but midi editing could stand some improvements, as has been enumerated countless times in this forum.
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/07 21:53:40
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I switched from an Alesis MMT-8 to Cakewalk 4.0 for DOS. Does that count? I switched 'cause I had a screamin' Tandy 8088 processor with 640k RAM & no hard drive (& no mouse!) that I just couldn't wait to use for sequencing. As much as I loved my MMT-8, cake 4.0 really kicked its butt. Been a user ever since, though years later, b4 Sonar came out I tried to switch to Cubase because I really wanted to be able to use soft synths. Problem was, I was so used to cake's method of madness that I just couldn't get used to Cubase. I found it to be quite user hostile (though I have to wonder if someone reared on Cubase would find Sonar to be just as foreign). Fortunately for me, about the time I resigned myself to giving up on Cubase, Sonar came out. I've had no infidelity issues since, & now make my living with Sonar 6 PE.
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ivanSC
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/08 03:41:26
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Well sort of. Been using Amiga 1200 with Bars n Pipes Pro for donkey`s years & still do, in with a Fostex Standalone hard disk recorder. Over the years I tried all the PC main contenders & it wasnt till Sonar 3 came out that I saw something approaching the ease of use of BPP. I now have Producer 6, but STILL not converted to recording in the box. Mostly I use Sonar to master down to CD, which may seem like overkill, but I still don`t entirely trust my audio to a computer which runs anything produced by Microsoft. Vista? Puh-LEEZ! Maybe if it ever gets to SP2 or 3.
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Marketing [Cakewalk]
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/09 10:18:07
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This is all great to hear. Good feedback about what got you to switch, and good feedback about what we need to do to keep you happy. Please keep the "switched" stories coming.
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dappa1
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/10 18:30:07
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I was using cubase for along time; but I did not feel comfortable in utilizing all its functions. everything felt so far away in terms of operation. I Must Admit. I liked the piano roll and some features on their midi. Midi in Cakewalk seems to be a bit hit and miss or maybe i need to learn more on how midi functions are used in sonar. please enlighten us. lol The route to Sonar was quite easy, although, using Cubase sx 1's Demo open my eyes to possiblities in computer music. I was updating my OS from 98se to XP and was looking for a sequencer that was going to improve audio recording. Yes Cubase was an option albeit a pricey one. although that did not affect my overall decision. What I became fed up with, was the limitation, a mix of my limitation and cubases flexibility. So I took the plunge based on the promise of a good pristine 24/192khz audio engine. At that price, Sonar was sold to me, Learning curve has taken a while. But the power of Sonar seems limitless; so it inspires me to push the boundaries and it brings out the workaholic in me. Some times looping can be in perfect timing sometimes not. maybe its me, or midi has a mind of its own. I feel I need more control in this department. I need 100% accuracy which equates to having a smooth working system. Oh yeah the audio engine is excellent. sound quality is very good too. You just want to do your best. I won't shoot Cubase down or any other sequencer, but what I will say, is that for me to give a product its dues is unusual for me. I doubted the upgrade path. Tech team has really been good and also the upgrade path along with my first song on my upgrade is a genius. Finally lol! just playing always room for improvement...for both of us but good work keep it up!
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LPMusic
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/11 12:34:14
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hi, my name is Lou Pomanti, and i write music for TV and FILM, and am based in Toronto, Canada . I switched to Sonar6PE after being a Logic PC user for many years. I began on the Synclavier system in the early 80s, then started using Notator on the Atari. In the 90s i switched to Logic when they introduced it for the PC. So...when Apple bought Logic 4 or 5 years ago, i was stuck on Logic 5.5 for a long time. I kept putting off switching host sequencers because the thought of it terrified me, as using Logic5 had become 2nd nature for me ( I didn't have to learn an update for 5 years). The option of switching to the Mac platform was never really an option for me, as i've been a PC guy since the very early 80s. I spent a lot of time testing various versions of Cubase, but found the workflow SO difficult to get used to I started to check out Sonar. From the first, it had a familiar feeling to it, and was much simpler to use than Cubase. It's taken me a few months, but i now work exclusively in Sonar, and am loving every minute of it. I'm currently scoring a labor-intensive CGI-animated show for Aardman, called Chop Socky Chooks. It has premiered in Canada, but doesn't air in the rest of the world (including US) till February. There's a lot of midi manipulation and editing involved, as there is a large synth-ork element to it. I find new features everyday that help me, and am really pleased with the Cakewalk Forums...they are great, and everyone has been a great help, especially Scott Garrigus! www.loupomanti.com
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/11 12:51:47
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ORIGINAL: LPMusic (including US) till February. There's a lot of midi manipulation and editing involved, as there is a large synth-ork element to it. I find new features everyday that help me, and am really pleased with the Cakewalk Forums...they are great, and everyone has been a great help, especially Scott Garrigus! www.loupomanti.com Thanks, Lou! I hope that tutorial session we had over the phone helped as well. As for my Cakewalk story... I started using Cakewalk software a long time ago, so I didn't really switch. When I moved from the Atari to the PC, I started using Cakewalk software. Geez... I'm getting old. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge 6, 7/8 and SONAR 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Power books. ** Get Sonar 6 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! ** http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free Absynth 3 or Kontakt 2 DVD Tutorial and learn cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... over 20,000 readers can't be wrong! Go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
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terry1
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/11 18:13:09
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Thats easy. Going from quitbase to sonar 6 pe was a no brainier. 1. Surround sound capability's, 2. Didn't lock up 1/3 threw a track. 3. Cost of the cross grade. 4. This forum. 5. Ease of use. 6. Not leaving their customers stranded. 7. Honesty "will do what you say you will do and not with hold information". 8. Works great in vista. Shall I go on or should I tell you what I really think! 
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strat1376
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/11 19:37:18
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I started with pro audio 9 and then left for Samplitude. Mainly because the sound engine in samplitude was much better for one thing and also at the time samplitude was a better emulation of hardware mixing. I came back to Sonar 4 because of ease of use mainly, anyone who has used SAM can tell you its a very good program, but not real user friendly and as my needs grew I needed better midi capabilities and Sonar was better hands down. I doubt ill ever switch again because learning one program is time consuming enough as it is.
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 01:24:30
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Audio recording has always been my hobby, not a profession - so I can't fund it the way I'd like to. I've grown from 4-track Fostex cassette recorders to the Pro Tool Digi001 which worked great, but their plug-in's or add-on's are too expensive for any hobbyist. I switched to Sonar 6 Producer for two main reasons: 1) "most" everything you'll ever need comes with in the basic software package, and 2) the sales guy at the music store said he uses it and it is 'the bomb" for any recording project. A close personal friend of mine works at Digidesign and was absolutely "crushed" when I bought Sonar 6, but he had to admit it's an outstanding value once I showed him a demo... (and I'm still learning it !!!)
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Tosch
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 10:24:33
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Hi there -what a nice Idea to Talk about that kind of decission! I was Steinberg-Cubase User since Version 1.0! One Reason was, that my first apartment in Hamburg/Germany was very close to the Steinberg Development-Center. We had some Contacts about Bugs and improvements concerning the first Version and they send me some Updates for free B) So - i was a real Steinberg-Fan... Over the Years Steinberg introduce the audio-recording Stuff, an more functions. But also the usage of the hole software become more complicate... After they introducing the "new" Cubase SX1 i was *very* frustrate about the bugs and workarounds - To make music become more and more a matter of "handling cubase in the right way". But I just want to play my instrument - I dont want to become an Expert in using a complicated Software! Because of that i took a closer look to the competitors. Finaly I bought Sonar 4. The reason for this decision was very simple - The "Philosophie" of Cakewalk to build an easy-to-use-Recording-Software. Thanks for reading - and sorry for my poor english Tosch;)
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 11:46:46
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I started out as an FL Studio user, though it wasn't long before the pattern-based workflow (kinda improved in v7) became a limitation for the kind of work I wanted to do, which involved longer, complicated melodies, often with multi-timbral multi-out plugins. I'd been advised by many people to go with Cubase, as they claimed it had great MIDI editing (but no demo, so that was a complete non-starter). I used the Sonar 4 web demo for a while, and found myself pleasantly surprised at how robust and feature-rich the software was. It seemed that Home Studio 4 was going to inherit lots of these things, so I became a Home Studio user for a while. Then upgraded to Studio 5 and then Studio 6 (which was a real milestone for me. proper VST automation, which had been a bit glitchy before). Sonar represents (for me), great value from a great company (clearly involved with its userbase) and one in which the improvements just keep on coming. It just does what it says on the tin.
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rictheobscene
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 17:44:27
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ORIGINAL: Marketing [Cakewalk] Hello, Over the last few years we have seen a major surge in the number of customers switching to SONAR from other applications. We have our own ideas why this has been occuring, but we would prefer to hear it from you directly. So, please tell us. What we are interested in knowing is: 1. What application you switched from and which version of SONAR you switched to. 2. Your specific reasons for switching to SONAR (specific features in SONAR, specific problems with other aps, customer service, etc.) Thanks for your support of SONAR and thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, Carl Jacobson Marketing Director Cakewalk I switched to Sonar 6 Producer Edition from Steinberg's Cubase 4. I was a long time user of Cubase. I started with VST 3.7 and upgraded to VST 5, SX 1, SX 2, SX 3, and finally Cubase 4. With each new release came the hype that this was the Cubase that was going solidify the product followed by the reality that this was just another chapter in the saga of bitter disappointment. The straw that broke the camel's back was the back to back marketing blunders of (a) removing DX support and not telling anyone until after they had sold the product and (b) pulling the plug on the final SX3 patch after having promised it for more than a year. I felt I could no longer trust the company, and I called their integrity into question. I had met Alex Westner through my work with FX-Max. Also, my work at FX-Max had introduced me to the Sonar product. To begin with, I knew just enough about it to support most of the Sonar / FX-Teleport questions. When the time came for me to switch over, Sonar was available to me, and I began to recognize that this was something special. As I began to work with it, I found myself dispelling many of the myths that abound about Sonar. I am sure you've all heard them, and if you've worked with the product you know it just hogwash. I crossgraded to Sonar, and I haven't looked back. I also decided to invest in Samplitude as well to give me a dual approach. My Steinberg experience taught me 2 things. 1. Never put all of your eggs in one basket. 2. Never put any of your eggs in Steinberg's basket because you never know when they will come along and cut the bottom out from beneath you.
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terry1
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 21:23:39
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rictheobscene I'm totally with you on that! I switched from quitbase about 6 months ago to sonar 6 pe after wasting a year just trying to get past 1 track how pathetic is that.
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 22:20:37
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I dont have to buy Extra Crap just to get basic tracks finished. (pro tools:( ) Also I can have as many tracks as my system can support. Enough Said on that:) Would still like Acid Style cutting if samples. byebye mrfantastical
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studio343
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/12 23:13:18
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I am in the process of switching. I am coming over from Cubase SX3, and some recent "issues" with my setup that only reared their head once I got into some intense projects (over 30+ tracks of audio).. and of course Steiny's legendary drop of support for SX/SL line of DAW's while still selling them via their online store or retail. I have gone to using Sonar LE for now since my PE6 web demo has expired.. and the same projects imported over as wav files from the SX project have been rock solid. I'm waiting for the upgrade annoucement for 6/7 before doing the official crossgrade. Feature wise both are similar.. but Cakewalk's level of involvement and care for the end user is a refreshing drink of water in the hot desert of the DAW world =-)
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rictheobscene
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/13 08:20:46
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ORIGINAL: studio343 I am in the process of switching. I am coming over from Cubase SX3, and some recent "issues" with my setup that only reared their head once I got into some intense projects (over 30+ tracks of audio).. and of course Steiny's legendary drop of support for SX/SL line of DAW's while still selling them via their online store or retail. I have gone to using Sonar LE for now since my PE6 web demo has expired.. and the same projects imported over as wav files from the SX project have been rock solid. I'm waiting for the upgrade annoucement for 6/7 before doing the official crossgrade. Feature wise both are similar.. but Cakewalk's level of involvement and care for the end user is a refreshing drink of water in the hot desert of the DAW world =-) Amen
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/13 23:16:12
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I started recording by trying different softwares, to begin with.. cooledit, adobe audition,vegas,cubase, but one software that i was stuck and used to using is SONAR. I started out witho sonar 2 then eventually to its latest Sonar 6 PE. I have to admit that i havent figured out all the functions of the software and how i wish i could also maximize my learning for a better recording. Thanks to cakewalk sonar that i have at least finished our album inspite of the lack of our equipments. the software was really helpful tool ong the growth of our music.
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Poodle
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/17 04:08:54
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Started on Fasttracker on the Amiga 15 years ago. Been making music as a hobby on and off since then on various platforms incl Buzz and Reason, Cubase, Pro Tools and even old Cakewalk etc Decided to go 100% for Sonar when I realised it is totally dedicated to Windows. All the others really are Mac platforms and that's not for me as I like to build my own rigs and all Apple's products are too cute for me. That Sonar has the Synthrack, VC64 and the brilliant 64bit sound mixer engine is iceing on the cake. :) I don't think I could get anything done without the synthrack as I use loads of softsynths, and I even got a 24" monitor and getting one more to just house the synthrack etc. I'm also ditching Reason completely but might use Ableton for dj stuff. When it comes to producing, Sonar together with my VSTs can do everything that I need and more.
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Lunatique
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2007/07/17 21:00:13
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I started using Sonar at version 3. I had come from analog, with a little bit of experience with computers/sequencing hosts (Studio Vision), but it was mostly telling someone what I wanted and he'd do it--I didn't know how to operate the computer at the time. I did use Cubase SX 2 for a little bit and liked it just fine, except missed little things I took for granted in Sonar 3--stuff like clip looping, sound effects bin right in the track view, being able to drag effects around between tracks in the bin...etc. I also appreciated the included highend effects in Sonar (SonitusFX and Lexicon Pantheon). According to Paul Galreath's book on MIDI orchestration, Sonar's included effects are the only ones that are high enough quality to mix/master highend orchestral compositions, whereas none of the other sequencing hosts' included effects were deemed high enough quality for that task. I have a few gripes currently (I'm on version 6 now) though. I think the draw envelop tool is pretty clunky--often I want to select only one node but a bunch of other nodes will get highlighted, and sometimes it's hard to select a node if the now time cursor is in the same spot. It's also hard to select the envelop to change the curve too, as the line is sometimes too thin and you end up selecting everything else around it instead, no matter how hard you try. I use envelop automation extensively (to get a more expressive playback from my orchestral instruments), and it really annoys me. It's bad enough that I might consider switching hosts at this point. Another problem is how under-powered Sonar's MIDI editing is compared to the competitors--even the lower tiered products in the market have more powerful MIDI editing tools, which I find a bit embarrassing. FL Studio used to be the joke among serious musicians, now it kicks Sonar's ass in several aspects. Sonar currently has trouble working with some older plugins, and some free ones too. For example, I cannot get Galactix (from Smart Electronics) to work in Sonar. Often, even after several plugin scans, Sonar still cannot pickup some of the plugins in my VST folder. Sometimes it'll see the plugin, and I'll put it in my custom plugin managed layout, but I can't actually use that plugin at all--try to select it and nothing happens. Sonar's audio editor is pretty rudimentary--I'd like to see more robust/creative audio editing features, so people would never have to open up something like Wavelab or Audition--just do it all in Sonar. AFAIK, I cannot draw volume/expression (CC7, CC11) data in Sonar's MIDI editor like I can in Cubase. I really want that. I'd prefer that to doing it with envelops in the track view. If I could just draw things like you could with the mod wheel data, I'd be happy. It would be nice if Sonar had something like the Freefilter, where you can apply one track's sonic characteristics to another track. Sonar's got an analyzer now--might as well make it more useful by giving it something more useful to do than just look pretty. I never got ACT to work. I read up on it multiple times, from the manual to online forums, to magazine articles, and nothing worked. I'm in the middle of scoring a game right now, so I can't afford to jump ship, but I'm serious considering it at this point after the score is done. But if Sonar has plans to fix many of these issues in the next version, I might stick around and see if things change.
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Clik
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2007/07/18 06:17:39
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I switched from Cakewalk Music Creator to Sonar 4 Studio Edition. I switched because Cakewalk sent me an email with a really good upgrade price. I now have Sonar 6 Producer Edition, for the same reason: a really good upgrade price.
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Rinkwraith
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/18 08:10:02
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Aside from playing with trackers on my Amiga, I'd never really done much with computer-based recording/sequencing. Not that long ago a mate introduced me to Cubase and I gave that a whirl for a short time. To be honest, I just struggled to get anywhere with it... then one day it suddenly decided to stop talking to my computer's soundcard (didn't have a proper audio interface yet) and stubbornly refused to be fixed. I work in IT all day and on the rare occassions I get to spend some time making music, I don't want to be bogged down in tech problems and trying to figure out software. So I tried Sonar 5 and got moving really quickly. Everything was more or less where my brain expected it to be, and worked how I wanted it to. Upgraded to 6 last year and there's no doubt in my mind I'll be a Sonar user for a long time yet. I don't have many requests - a rethink on drum maps would be nice though.
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2007/07/18 09:00:32
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Interesting thread this, here's my £0.02. I was using a Tascam TSR16 for many years and sync'd an Amiga computer running Music-X via a JSL Cooper sync box to trigger MIDI instruments which then fed back into the desk. Fantastic system in it's day, very flexible and very useful as I had 15 tape tracks together with more MIDI tracks than I needed. One day, my Amiga decided enough was enough and decided never to boot again. I needed a replacement so I thought I'd move with the times and get onto to a PC platform so I could run the office on it as well. I bought a 386 with 2M RAM and a 20Mb HDD and checked out several sequencers at a local shop eventually to walk out with a copy of Cakewalk V2. The GUI was leagues ahead of Music-X and totally knocked me out. Add to that the real "Windows" feel of the program and I was hooked and on the slippery slope of PC music. About 13 years later, after pretty much every Cakewalk upgrade, I am now at Sonar V6.2.1. Nothing of my original setup remains - no desk, no MIDI instruments (all been gradually replaced by VST + DXi synths / samplers, all driven by one MIDI controller). Everything is now done in the PC which is fed by a MOTU Ultralite. Now I run about 50 audio tracks, 10 or so MIDI tracks per project. Better still, this year I replaced the PC with a laptop so now I get to take all this around with me in one bag! How good is that to be totally mobile? My last CD was written in a caravan sat in the middle of nowhere in a field surrounded by nothing other than cows!!! To stop and think how far everything has come in 13 years is mind blowing, here's to the next 13 years!!!! Thank you Cake for making all this possible!
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/19 02:28:53
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i switched in November of 2005. I was using Sony Acid but a lot of people thought down of my work when i told them that I used Acid. Since Hip Hop is totally collaboritive I had to play to others ignorance and went to Guitar Center to buy Cubase Se. They were out and I saw Sonar Home Studio 4 on the shelf for the same price. Said o what the hey why not try it. I dig it but its not my favorite Daw just the one I use until I find something better for what I do. Sonar sounds great tho thats really the only thing besides audio editing imo that is really great about it tho. I use a lot of midi and while it works its kind of quirky when using multiple midi controllers
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/19 19:03:09
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Less a story about 'switching' and more about why Sonar. Like many here, back in the 90s I was running an Atari with Cubase. Stuff like getting married, kids, etc happened and I had to ditch my studio and music hobby. Cut to today and I am now returning to music. Based on my experience with my old study I wanted something in s/w that was easy to use and would not interfere with the process of composition. To that end I looked for something that would fit the bill: I picked up Live. But I realised in my research that Live would not be adequate for 'finishing' so I looked for something else. Based on my previous experience I went for Cubase but I was suspicious (bad support, complaints about MIDI timing, etc). So I picked up the less expensive and more limited SE3 to see how that would work for me. So glad I did that. It was awful. An unduly complex piece of software that really did nothing for me. So I kept looking... and Sonar 6 PE was released. With native VST support. My interest was piqued. I tried the demo when it appeared (they never appear soon enough do they?) and very quickly got to grips with it. I was impressed. The feature set was excellent, the sound better than Live and I found the program largely intuitive and easy to use. I started posting here and was impressed by the community and by Cakewalks involvement within it. All in all things were looking very good indeed. At this point the decision was made and not long after, the purchase. I am now starting to use Sonar 'in anger' and it is superb. Really looking forward to see how this tool develops (v7 soon woohoo!). I also acquired Project 5. I am hoping that ultimately P5 and Sonar will feature a more integrated workflow. At that point Live will have few things to recommend it (although quite what I will do without its seamless management of loops and fantastic plugins like Beat Repeat...). Might be worth pointing out that while my musical interest is limited to being a hobby, I work full time in IT. I have 20 yrs experience in the industry and currently work for a rather well known brand in the Fortune 500. My work in the architecture team often has me evaluating tools (typically modelling tools) and funnily enough, acting as an 'expert' to assist other members of the company in my areas of specialism through internal consultancy and... forums. Much of this knowledge/experience is very handy when it comes to looking at software and picking the right product. I am pretty damn certain I now have the right software for my hobby. My 2p worth.
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/21 07:45:56
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Used PA9 for several years, which I believe gave a brain like mine the ability to slowly wrap itself around the concept of DAWs. I'm a dinosaur of a guitar player and I didn't like the idea of staring at the screen; I wanna play dammit! Bought the Fostex MR8 and got a little more savvy when I started to import the Fostex audio trax to PA9 and mess with editing. Thought I'd "step up" and bought a low end audio interface that came with Cubase LE. It sure looked a lot cooler than PA9. I spent more time trying to get Cubase just to recognize the USB driver that came on the same stinkin' disk! Never recorded a whole song with it. I wanna play dammit! Bought GTP3 from Musicians Friend and began to learn that I needed "real" hardware if I wanted to use "real" software. Upgraded my PC, bought the Audiophile 24/96, a little mixer/preamp and the fun began! Started to visit this forum and pay attention. Upgraded to HS6 XL thanks to a sweet offer from Cakewalk and I'm finally just plain enjoying myself. The help in this forum is amazing. The experienced users are patient with knuckleheads like me and even if they don't have the answer, they take the time to find out who does. Bottm line: This ol' gitfiddler is a loyal Sonarian. I'm pretty certain I'm ready to move to PE 7 when it hits.
Don't you know that it's different for girls? msi, corei5 6400, 8GB Ram, HD 1.5 TB SPlat, Cakewalk by Band Lab, Sony Acid, AmpliTube 4, Line 6 Pod Studio, Line 6 300 HD, Steinberg/Yamaha CI2, a dozen guitars, Yamaha keyboards, Alesis DM6 Drum Kit
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/21 19:28:28
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I used Cubase SX 3 for a while, then switched to sonar 6PE because it was so much easier to use (cubase is confusing), plus i'd heard from so many people that its one of the best sequencers ever! which it is, no problems yet
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RE: Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story.
2007/07/23 05:25:46
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My first upload to acid planet was 04.05.04, and needless to say, I was using acidexpress the free version. I was able to get version one the yellow disk in a recording mag. I was hooked on recording. using a HP 486 and 512 ram I tried all of the demos and versions and plugs that came with any recording, guitar, or PC mag that I bought. bought a new desk top PC with a 2.6 intel hyperthreading proc / 1 gig ram, then 1.5 gig, then 2 gig. upgraded the audio to the audigy 4 pro audio card bought and tried the audiophile24/96 audio card I got cubase le with it tried the Ableton live thing and the reason thing Bought and used Homestudio 2004 version for 2 years bought a GNX-4 guitar modual that came with Pro Tracks. bought a 3200 AMD 2 core dual x64 with the ASUS wisper motbrd ordered sonar 5 with the 6 x64 upgrade which is my main Daw. 4 gig 800ddr2 over clocked 10% windows XP Pro 64, and networked with the intel PC I do the recording on the new one (64 bit AMD) while I can store on a secordary drive in the older machine and transfer back and forth easy, but at the same time I dont nead an anti virus or internet on the 64 bit DAW. both machines now have 4 gig ram and I use the I/O gear for single keyboards and mouse with dual monitors. My soundcard of choice now it the MOTU 828 on my 64 bit DAW and the 24/96 in the intel here is what it looked like as I had just installed the MOTU mkll as a rack mount on top and digitech VR Vocalizer under it with the peavey delta dual next  . Heres a dual monitor shot
bwmac ASUS M2N-E bios-10 AMD 64 X2 6000 ~ 4G 800 DDR2 windows XP PRO 64 EDITION SONAR 6 PRODUCER MOTU 828 mkll. ITS A LONG WAY TO THE TOP, IF YOU ROCK AND ROLL Its not about the money, Its about the music.
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