Tropical Cowboy
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Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
Hi, I'm going over the manual for the Waves MixDown. It states: The CLA MixDown... can be inserted on any buss, but it shines most brightly when inserted between the buss master and the mix master. What's the difference between the buss master and the mix master? I'm confused. Is the Mix Master the main Master on a project. If so, what is the Buss master?
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/10 19:56:30
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I think the buss master would be a group master (all keys to one group buss, for example) and the mix master would be the main, master, or 2 buss.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/10 20:27:23
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So think of the mix bus as your subs that grouped specific instruments. Example I have individual buses for drums, guitars, bass, keys, and vocals. These buses all go into my master bus. If what your saying about CLA is true then you would add it to the sub/mix buses prior to going into your master bus. The advantage is you can sculpt the sound specifically for the instrument bus you created giving it's own distinct place in the mix.
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Tropical Cowboy
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/11 04:45:01
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/11 05:52:13
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Judging from the plugin UI and the description I would put it on the master bus, before your final limiter.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 01:57:20
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At the risk of sounding like a jerk, "buss" is an archaic term for a kiss. I don't think Sonar has a computer-kissing feature, so each of the buses in Sonar is a bus.
And to make matters worse, the plural of bus can be either buses or busses, although the former is preferred.
Normally I wouldn't waste anybody's time on this. But I think it is kind of funny to read a post that talks about kissing software. I know the legendary sound engineers all have many special tricks, but kissing the DAW is probably not going to do anything.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 09:13:24
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I like to use the term buss in order to differentiate it from a city bus. I believe the buss term comes from an electrical buss. Where the term bus comes from the term omnibus meaning a conveyance for many people. I could be wrong though. I never heard buss used as a word for kiss. I looked it up and in the online dictionary you are correct. However, that was not what I recall from past definitions. Interesting though.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 12:49:03
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 16:24:22
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 16:45:46
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John
I like to use the term buss in order to differentiate it from a city bus.
Many moons ago Nancy Allen @ LBCC gave me a simple explanation that I always remembered - "think of it as an actual bus, moving signals from one place to another."
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 17:03:40
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John
I like to use the term buss in order to differentiate it from a city bus.
Many moons ago Nancy Allen @ LBCC gave me a simple explanation that I always remembered - "think of it as an actual bus, moving signals from one place to another."
Again read the whole thing. Copy and pasting stuff is silly here. Its selective while missing the most important part. Did you see where I said you were right? You're arguing for no reason.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 17:11:26
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John
ceemusic
John
I like to use the term buss in order to differentiate it from a city bus.
Many moons ago Nancy Allen @ LBCC gave me a simple explanation that I always remembered - "think of it as an actual bus, moving signals from one place to another."
Again read the whole thing. Copy and pasting stuff is silly here. Its selective while missing the most important part.
Did you see where I said you were right? You're arguing for no reason.
Sorry, I don't get your anger. Who's arguing? I just posted how I relate the term buss to a past experience.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 17:20:43
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Welcome to the club so was I.
Edit to add: there was no anger in my post. I'm a host, I don't get angry.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 17:24:42
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John
Did you see where I said you were right?
John, that's a different person. Nobody is picking on you. The only reason I know about "buss" is because I made the same mistake until somebody pointed out that I was suggesting kissing a motherboard. It is just one of those linguistic hazards with English, along with imply/infer, flammable/inflammable, its/it's, fewer/less, affect/effect, and hundreds of others.
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 17:27:18
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And to complicate matters even further...enough people have used "buss" when talking about mixers that it's possible to run into it and think it's an alternate spelling, like the way British English says "colour" as opposed to "color."
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Re: Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/12 17:39:31
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cparmerlee
John
Did you see where I said you were right?
John, that's a different person. Nobody is picking on you. The only reason I know about "buss" is because I made the same mistake until somebody pointed out that I was suggesting kissing a motherboard. It is just one of those linguistic hazards with English, along with imply/infer, flammable/inflammable, its/it's, fewer/less, affect/effect, and hundreds of others.
Something is wrong. We are talking past each other. My post just after yours was in fact relating my on view due to having a very different understanding. Yet in the end I agreed with what you were saying. I don't see how you were picking on me or any one else. If I thought that the results would have been very different. Further I happen to know your posting that there is no such thing as an electrical buss or bus is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-100_bus
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