Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3

Author
fHumble fHingaz
Bronze Member
  • Total Posts : 178
  • Reward points: 0
  • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
  • Status: offline
2010/08/07 10:39:46 (permalink)

Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3

I'm trying to export a Midi file for a drum track from Sonar, so that it can be shared with others who have various different DAWs.  My problem is that when I save it as a Midi Groove Clip & export it, the file comes back having large gaps with no midi information in them.  I tried splitting up the track into sections & exporting clips of only 10 bars in length (its a total of about 120 bars long), but the problem persists.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what is going wrong, or perhaps if there is another way of doing this?
Thanks
post edited by fHumble fHingaz - 2010/08/07 10:41:00
#1

13 Replies Related Threads

    daveny5
    Platinum Member
    • Total Posts : 16852
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 09:54:36
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/07 12:19:03 (permalink)
    When you export to a MIDI Groove clip, it only exports the clip and not all the repeats. To save it with the repeats you have to save as a CWP or MIDI file.

    Dave
    Computer: Core2Quad, 8GB/2.5TB+, Windows 8 Pro 64-bit, Sonar X2A Producer, Delta 44, Cakewalk UM-3G
    Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R
    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp.
    Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, etc... 
    Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad

    #2
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/07 18:42:30 (permalink)
    Thanks for the reply...
    There are no repeats in the clip - its a complete midi replacement of a live drum performance, & I don't have the option of saving it as a CWP file because I want to share it with others who are working in different DAW platforms.
    #3
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/07 19:47:01 (permalink)
    ...ah... I get what you're saying about saving as a midi file now (I did a little more research).  I did that, but my problem is that when I do save it as a midi file, when I check it by importing it into a project, its all scrambled!  It has huge gaps of nothing in the file & it ends up being more than 1000 bars long! (the original song is about 120 bars long)... It seems to me that the file seems to be splitting itself up of its own accord & moving itself in chunks along the timeline???  I tried bouncing it to clips to consolidate any stray layers I might have missed, but it doesn't make any difference. I tried saving it as a new project but I get the same result... any one know what might be going on? 
    #4
    johnnyV
    Silver Member
    • Total Posts : 2105
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2010/02/22 11:46:33
    • Location: Here, in my chair
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/07 19:49:46 (permalink)
    Did you try an " Export"  as midi file or " save as"  midi 0 or 1?
    Woops you beet me to it.
    post edited by johnnyV - 2010/08/07 19:54:21

    Sonar 8.5- Windows 7 64 - Tascam us1641 -Yamaha 01v NSM 10 monitors. 12 guitars - homebrew.-
    #5
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/08 17:39:16 (permalink)
    ...yeah, I still haven't found the solution to this - its very puzzling????
    #6
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/09 20:30:15 (permalink)
    Is there any way I could send someone the original .cwp file so they can see what happens when I try to save it as a .mid file?
    #7
    johnnyV
    Silver Member
    • Total Posts : 2105
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2010/02/22 11:46:33
    • Location: Here, in my chair
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/09 21:43:25 (permalink)
    I'll give it a go
    Send me the cpw  to      cactusmusic@telus.net

    post edited by johnnyV - 2010/08/10 15:51:00

    Sonar 8.5- Windows 7 64 - Tascam us1641 -Yamaha 01v NSM 10 monitors. 12 guitars - homebrew.-
    #8
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/11 08:18:16 (permalink)
    johnnyV


    I'll give it a go
    Send me the cpw  to      cactusmusic@telus.net

    Thanks for the kind offer Johnny,
     
    I've sent you the file via email.
     
    Kind Regards,
    fHumble fHingaz
     
    #9
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/11 08:21:02 (permalink)
    ...um... it gets returned to my email as undeliverable...???
    #10
    Lowline
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 67
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/12/03 08:52:36
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/11 08:41:39 (permalink)
    Apologies if this is too basic or you've done it already, but why don't you just drag the midi file to your desktop from Sonar.  It might not solve the issues with your file but it is the easiest way to get your midi file out.  
    #11
    fHumble fHingaz
    Bronze Member
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2009/01/19 19:19:58
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/11 09:49:02 (permalink)
    Lowline


    Apologies if this is too basic or you've done it already, but why don't you just drag the midi file to your desktop from Sonar.  It might not solve the issues with your file but it is the easiest way to get your midi file out.  


    Thanks, yeah I discovered this neat function just recently (I've had lots of experience with audio, but not with midi!), but unfortunately I still get the same glitch when I drag / import the file into another program... I'm sure there's some really basic, dumb thing I'm doing wrong, but I just can't seem to find it anywhere!
    #12
    LarryAlex
    Gold Member
    • Total Posts : 3850
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2003/11/15 06:19:28
    • Location: Tyler, Texas, USA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/11 14:00:25 (permalink)
    Go into "track properties" and see if a channel number has actually been assigned to the MIDI file.

    Regards,


    Larry G. Alexander
    Alexander Music Dot Com
    #13
    johnnyV
    Silver Member
    • Total Posts : 2105
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2010/02/22 11:46:33
    • Location: Here, in my chair
    • Status: offline
    Re:Difficulties exporting Midi files from Sonar 8.5.3 2010/08/11 17:22:56 (permalink)
    Sorry about the email. Telus is having some major melt down , I havn't bein able to open my mail for 2 days now! I phoned my tech and they say it's half the telus servers are down ( virus?)
    so use my hotmail
    jkenvere@hotmail.com 

    Sonar 8.5- Windows 7 64 - Tascam us1641 -Yamaha 01v NSM 10 monitors. 12 guitars - homebrew.-
    #14
    Jump to:
    © 2014 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1