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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 12:37:30
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Unfortunately ...it looks pretty accurate... FL has become one of the most popular "DAW" softwares out there... It has won the Computer Music/Music Radar Shootout 2 years running now... LIFETIME FREE updates...and about the HALF the price of others for the SIGNATURE Bundle...@$299 ($279 AD) and most likely WHY it is the most popular, because it is the most affordable. That being said...I can't stand it...not the way I like to work...just me.. Cubase 7 rated first overall is on target for usability...features and new mixer make it a powerhouse....even though the interface is still lacking...VST3 support, Expression, Chord Track, REVerence, etc.... and killer scoring, make it top flight...if they could just get a better interface, they'd be stomping buttocks... Digital Performer 8, if it ever hits the Windows version, is going to be one to be reckoned with by the other Windows DAW's....time will tell..it's a stand out on the Mac. X2, while having my favorite interface and workflow....is still behind in stability, and features Pro Tools....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY behind the times....SAD... not my cup of tea....don't like it. Live 8...can't stand the interface....at all....9 is about to be released... Logic Pro...still a MAC Fav.....powerhouse of a DAW....not the friendliest mind you, but Mac guys love it... ` SURPRISINGLY lacking from this "roster" is Studio One 2.5. While the work flow takes some getting use to, it is quite the awesome package. Melodyne integrated, lots of nice features... making strides and a force to be reckoned with.... ALL of these, including Cake, better take note... If you're going to win the WAR, you better start BETTER picking your battles... That's my 2 cents worth...
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 12:49:21
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My bottom line reaction to the chart and all of its intricacies is that it is not the 'score' that matters, as the weighting can only truly be subjective. I DO see value in seeing features and limitations put side by side, however, but I believe each person's own weighting is what truly matters.
It all boils down to what each person feels will work best for them, balancing out features, limitations, cost, and intangibles.
An intangible would include as an example, work flow - this is a highly subjective matter that is truly an individual preference. Folks like doing things how it makes sense in their minds, and that's going to be unique, and therefore not measurable.
I happen to believe that for ME, that Sonar X2a Producer Edition running on MY particular computer, for MY particular musical tastes, and MY particular method of doing things, works better than any other set of recording software I have tried.
I have not evaluated any other software in a long, long time, because I have learned and cajoled, and pleaded, and side-stepped, and voodoo'ed, and whoodoo'ed, and fallen into, a set of recording techniques that work for ME, in Sonar.
My son favors FL Studio, because for HIM, it better matches the work flow he perceives as working for HIM.
Etc.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 13:20:03
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Yeah, I'm not surprised that FL and Live 8 came in last place, because they really shouldn't even be compared to regular DAWs. They're both very good at what they do and they're more specialized products. In some areas they beat standard DAWs with no problem. Cubase, Sonar and Logic probably make sense as the top three DAWs feature-wise at this point, but Studio One should obviously be in there too. It's always kind of hard to take these things very seriously.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 13:42:54
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I believe that Sonar X2 has nothing to be ashamed of in this shootout. 2nd place in overall rating isn't bad. A few improvements and the next version will be #1 
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 14:25:00
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It's a good job they don't include the user forums in those ratings.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 15:34:43
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We are spoiled for choice.
I think I would like to learn ProTools next.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 16:12:08
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LOL....Seth pulled his post because it was wrong...
That's what I was going to post...
Nice..
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 18:30:24
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What had Seth posted, I wonder?
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 20:12:24
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cclarry:
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Cubase 7 rated first overall is on target for usability...features and new mixer make it a powerhouse....even though the interface is still lacking...VST3 support, Expression, Chord Track, REVerence, etc.... and killer scoring, make it top flight...if they could just get a better interface, they'd be stomping buttocks...
</snip I'm assuming that you mean the UI is lacking in Cubase. But that Cubase is strong in other areas (such as VST3, Expression, etc.). At first I read your sentence (with what follows the three dots) as implying that Cubase lacked VST3, Expression and so on. Just wanted to clarify (pun not intended). It's an interesting criteria list, though there are a few things that could sway the results significantly either way: - colours - console mixer adjusting to screen size - touch-enabled - etc. I think some of these are attributes might be seen as more important to some people depending on habits and expectations...
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 21:03:09
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rather a skewed view.. e.g. for a start , no reaper on that list ?
sonar is better than cubase with video? REALLY?
and other stuff is better with loops than Live perhaps cubase.. and for remix work LOL!! they really dunno what they are talking about
sorry, whoever wrote that really doesn't use the stuff to their full extent to be taken seriously.
no mention of notation either ? hhmm
I'll dismiss it.. as it's not fact.. and the person doing isn't making a wide range of music besides tracking from what I've read
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/29 22:57:36
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I didn't miss the missing post.
Then it just disappeared.
Maybe it was one of those limited time specials.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 03:02:06
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Just wait until Band In A Box gets console emulation.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 03:41:07
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Let's rather have a DAW shootout about who's getting the work done . Now THAT will be interesting!
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 03:54:21
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LJB
Let's rather have a DAW shootout about who's getting the work done . Now THAT will be interesting!
Too busy making music to take part in any damn poll!! 
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 04:35:09
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 11:47:08
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It's a good job they don't include the user forums in those ratings.
Funniest post of the day by Straummy.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 11:53:57
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It's a good job they don't include the user forums in those ratings.
Funniest Only post of the day by Straummy.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 12:13:35
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LJB
Let's rather have a DAW shootout about who's getting the work done . Now THAT will be interesting!
think it's partly, which DAW is best suited to a job.Ableton is highly suited to remix work due to how it deals with tempos.So for someone who just makes music and never remixes, they haven't got the whole picture to comment on ableton if they say that.
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Re:Digital Doctor Software shootout! What say you?
2013/01/30 17:05:26
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It's a good job they don't include the user forums in those ratings.
Funniest Only post of the day by Straummy.
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