Dimension Pro - D-ProInstall_1.5.5.15 - changes

Thanks for the info... useful.
Is this a new Dim Pro build - if so (bakers) are there any release notes?
 
Thanks..

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According to the Knowledge base article about the update and the Cake rep, both linked above, it is just the installer has changed for compatibility with the new CCC ans apparently the only benefit is that your yellow lights will now turn green in CCC

There are two different updates. The knowledge base article is about build 16. The reported sfz changes were delivered prior to build 16. I can confirm the trumpet and oboe sfzs were updated from the 2006 versions to the 2010 versions. The 2010 version were part of the conversion conversion from wave to flac. Oddly, the "19-Brass Trumpet 1 f-falls(velo)-shake(mw).sfz" is still the old 2006 version. I have not swept through the DPro programs but would not be surprised if there were a few more.

The installer referenced in the knowledge base is 1-5-5-16. The subject of this thread is installer 1-5-5-15.

A quick count of my multisample folder shows 105 vintage sfz files. I am not sure if the are all included with the current distribution though.

There was a change to the installer and the installer version was bumped to 1-5-5-16. The new C3 uses a time based setting to scan for updates. The default is 24 hours. If you go to the C3 settings page and click "Check Now" you will notice DPro has gone yellow. The change is noted in links in msg #3 above.

scook
There was a change to the installer and the installer version was bumped to 1-5-5-16. The new C3 uses a time based setting to scan for updates. The default is 24 hours. If you go to the C3 settings page and click "Check Now" you will notice DPro has gone yellow. The change is noted in links in msg #3 above.

Good grief, I'm not going to download another 3GB file just to avoid
 
 
(from: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013416/D-Pro-1-5-5-16-Installer-Update):

• Resolves an issue where the Serial Number and Registration Code from your account would not be automatically populated, requiring manual registration steps to authorize Dimension Pro. This could potentially result in users needing to launch Dimension Pro as an administrator in order to enter their registration code. More information for resolving this issue can be found here. 

I'm going to assume that between this morning and this afternoon, that there was not any substantive change other than this.
 
Since I already ran into this problem and reported it,  I assume the assiduous Cakewalkers have fixed the installer.
I hope they added the VST path to the install file input as well. It was missing and presumed a bad default.
 

AFAIK, the only reason to update DPro since 2010 is to satisfy the C3 update indicator.

scook
AFAIK, the only reason to update DPro since 2010 is to satisfy the C3 update indicator.

 
I think I said something similar way back up there ? you even had me thinking, and I was previously determined to not mess with my current DimPro install (or Rapture for that matter)

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Here are the changes of the 3GB download distilled into two files.
Copy these changes and paste and save them into your DP Multisamples and you will save a lot of time:
 
For file 'Trumpet 1 Chromatic Fall.sfz' in  "...\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\19 - Brass" you should see this:
 

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// sfz Definition File
// Version 2
//
// © 2005 Cakewalk Music Software
// All Rights Reserved
//-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<control>
default_path=Trumpet 1\

<region> sample=PCH1 - 001.flac key=65
<region> sample=PCH1 - 002.flac key=66
<region> sample=PCH1 - 003.flac key=67
<region> sample=PCH1 - 004.flac key=68
<region> sample=PCH1 - 005.flac key=69
<region> sample=PCH1 - 006.flac key=70
<region> sample=PCH1 - 007.flac key=71
<region> sample=PCH1 - 008.flac key=72
<region> sample=PCH1 - 009.flac key=73
<region> sample=PCH1 - 010.flac key=74
<region> sample=PCH1 - 011.flac key=75
<region> sample=PCH1 - 012.flac key=76
<region> sample=PCH1 - 013.flac key=77
<region> sample=PCH1 - 014.flac key=78
<region> sample=PCH1 - 015.flac key=79
<region> sample=PCH1 - 016.flac key=80
<region> sample=PCH1 - 017.flac key=81
<region> sample=PCH1 - 018.flac key=82
<region> sample=PCH1 - 019.flac key=83
<region> sample=PCH1 - 020.flac key=84
<region> sample=PCH1 - 021.flac key=85
<region> sample=PCH1 - 022.flac key=86
<region> sample=PCH1 - 023.flac key=87
<region> sample=PCH1 - 024.flac key=88

 
For 'Oboe Solo.sfz' in "..\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\Garritan Pocket Orchestra\Woodwinds"

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Woodwinds
// Oboe Solo
//
//-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<control>
default_path=Oboe Solo Samples\

// First note
<group>
trigger=first

<region> sample=OboeA#3.flac key=a#3
<region> sample=OboeC4.flac key=c4 lokey=b3 hikey=d4
<region> sample=OboeE4.flac key=e4 lokey=d#4
<region> sample=OboeF4.flac key=f4 hikey=f#4
<region> sample=OboeG#4.flac key=g#4 lokey=g4
<region> sample=OboeA4.flac key=a4 hikey=b4
<region> sample=OboeC#5.flac key=c#5 lokey=c5
<region> sample=OboeD#5.flac key=d#5 lokey=d5
<region> sample=OboeE5.flac key=e5
<region> sample=OboeF5.flac key=f5
<region> sample=OboeF#5.flac key=f#5
<region> sample=OboeG#5.flac key=g#5 lokey=g5 hikey=a5
<region> sample=OboeC6.flac key=c6 lokey=a#5
<region> sample=OboeC#6.flac key=c#6
<region> sample=OboeD6.flac key=d6
<region> sample=OboeD#6.flac key=d#6
<region> sample=OboeE6.flac key=e6
<region> sample=OboeF6.flac key=f6 hikey=g6


// Legato note
<group>
trigger=legato

<region> sample=OboeA#3.flac key=a#3 offset=1141
<region> sample=OboeC4.flac key=c4 lokey=b3 hikey=d4 offset=1243
<region> sample=OboeE4.flac key=e4 lokey=d#4 offset=1001
<region> sample=OboeF4.flac key=f4 hikey=f#4 offset=1187
<region> sample=OboeG#4.flac key=g#4 lokey=g4 offset=938
<region> sample=OboeA4.flac key=a4 hikey=b4 offset=1426
<region> sample=OboeC#5.flac key=c#5 lokey=c5 offset=1528
<region> sample=OboeD#5.flac key=d#5 lokey=d5 offset=1380
<region> sample=OboeE5.flac key=e5 offset=1566
<region> sample=OboeF5.flac key=f5 offset=1383
<region> sample=OboeF#5.flac key=f#5 offset=865
<region> sample=OboeG#5.flac key=g#5 lokey=g5 hikey=a5 offset=1006
<region> sample=OboeC6.flac key=c6 lokey=a#5 offset=1126
<region> sample=OboeC#6.flac key=c#6 offset=1671
<region> sample=OboeD6.flac key=d6 offset=1352
<region> sample=OboeD#6.flac key=d#6 offset=2925
<region> sample=OboeE6.flac key=e6 offset=1699
<region> sample=OboeF6.flac key=f6 hikey=g6 offset=1792

Yup sorry I edited the previous post. Everybody knows I'm useless at posting right first time...

Doktor Avalanche
Well that's what I paid money for. A modernised rap and Dim pro disposing all the legacy complaints. Well Rap Pro works now but stiil the past is there. It really could have been so much better.

I get to the point now where people wonder if all these synths should be dumped never to be talked about ever again. There was a opportunity to turn it around and it just ended up to be a continuation of more or less the same thing with a different UI. We hoped and it ended up just being hope.

I'm not in favor of dumping older stuff at all. But If someone is going to take the time to update the program, they should also look at the installer as well. Probably it was made a dozen years ago and no one even understands it any more.
 
But it seems to have hard coded VST paths and saves the registration data in a manner inconsistent with stuff like Rapture and Rapture Pro.
 
If you look at the registry data for things like 'User Name', 'Product Key', 'Contents Folder' and the various data paths for Dimension Pro, Rapture, Rapture Pro and Zeta, you will wonder if they were all made by the same company.
 
 
 
 

I did some research into this and looked over the last few full installs I had for Dimension Pro.
In fact, in the Sonar X1 Producer full install, the DP Multisample files are still the same as this new install.
In particular, every sample file is in FLAC format and 'grepping' through all the SFZ files, there are no '.wav' file references.
 
So, in short, my own installation was in error in some way on the two files I mentioned above with the WAV sample references.
 
I have no idea how I got into that state as I don't think I edited any installed SFZ files, but for what it worth, the final judgement still goes:
 
The Dimension Pro installer at about 3GB is one of the largest installation files I have. There is no need to update the installation if you are happy with what you have as long as you have a 'recent' install (say Sonar X1 or later).
 
I really hate seeing non-green lights in CCC, so I performed the lengthy update again (1.5.5.16), but I'm rather obsessive.