Dimension Pro: Worthwhile?

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/22 09:33:34 (permalink)
I fell for the P5 + DP deal when it first came out. I'm mostly an audio guy too, but this is cool stuff...and the quality is high enough for my ears.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/22 10:27:55 (permalink)
Whoops! Sorry guys. You're right. When I wrote that I was thinking about being able to load different sampler file formats, which would be nice.


It's ok, Scott. As a matter of fact, I'm writing a book on Dimension that fills in the voids of the information available for it. I'll put you on my mailing list.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/22 10:53:53 (permalink)
Buy DimPro. It has 7 gigs of content. You can load several instances of the same multi-sample w/out a RAM hit. You can load any wave. SFZ format is easily editable. Included fx are nice & usable. Well, minus the distortion, it's only usable. Very tweekable. Sounds don't need to be replaced for final mixdown as w/some "workhouse or all in one" samplers. Stability is not an issue. It's great.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/22 14:00:36 (permalink)
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Whoops! Sorry guys. You're right. When I wrote that I was thinking about being able to load different sampler file formats, which would be nice.


It's ok, Scott. As a matter of fact, I'm writing a book on Dimension that fills in the voids of the information available for it. I'll put you on my mailing list.


Hi Dave,

Yeah, a Dimension Pro book would be cool. Hmmm... something to think about.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/22 19:44:57 (permalink)
Yeah, a Dimension Pro book would be cool. Hmmm... something to think about


It's got that thing called a book. It needs a manual w/tutorials.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 12:39:25 (permalink)
Dimension Pro can play up to four instruments per instance? I always load a new instance for my 2nd and 3rd instruments.

How do you play more than one instrument through an instance of it at a time?
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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 14:40:08 (permalink)
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Dimension Pro can play up to four instruments per instance? I always load a new instance for my 2nd and 3rd instruments.

How do you play more than one instrument through an instance of it at a time?


Each element can be on a different MIDI channel, so if each element is a different instrument then you can accomplish 4 instruments in one instance. However, I see no advantage in doing it this way and personally I load a new instance for each new instrument.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 15:08:51 (permalink)

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Dimension Pro can play up to four instruments per instance? I always load a new instance for my 2nd and 3rd instruments.

How do you play more than one instrument through an instance of it at a time?


Each element can be on a different MIDI channel, so if each element is a different instrument then you can accomplish 4 instruments in one instance. However, I see no advantage in doing it this way and personally I load a new instance for each new instrument.


Is'nt there a cpu advantage?
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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 15:12:47 (permalink)
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Dimension Pro can play up to four instruments per instance? I always load a new instance for my 2nd and 3rd instruments.

How do you play more than one instrument through an instance of it at a time?


Each element can be on a different MIDI channel, so if each element is a different instrument then you can accomplish 4 instruments in one instance. However, I see no advantage in doing it this way and personally I load a new instance for each new instrument.


Is'nt there a cpu advantage?



No not really. Dimension is a bit different and does not use any significant CPU until a sound is loaded into it. So another instance for a sound versus having the sounds loaded into the same instance would be about the same CPU useage. Dimension Pro and Rapture both are designed with this in mind.
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2006/07/24 15:24:38

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 15:20:09 (permalink)

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ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]

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Dimension Pro can play up to four instruments per instance? I always load a new instance for my 2nd and 3rd instruments.

How do you play more than one instrument through an instance of it at a time?


Each element can be on a different MIDI channel, so if each element is a different instrument then you can accomplish 4 instruments in one instance. However, I see no advantage in doing it this way and personally I load a new instance for each new instrument.


Is'nt there a cpu advantage?



No not really. Dimension is a bit different and does not use any significant CPU until a sound is loaded into it. So another instance for a sound versus having the sounds loaded into the same instance would be about the same CPU useage. Dimension Pro and Rapture both are designed with this in mind.



AHHH! Did'nt know this, Thanks for the info! I'll be definitely using multiple instances myself.
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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 15:25:35 (permalink)
My pleasure.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 15:27:54 (permalink)
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Is'nt there a cpu advantage?

No not really. Dimension is a bit different and does not use any significant CPU until a sound is loaded into it. So another instance for a sound versus having the sounds loaded into the same instance would be about the same CPU useage. Dimension Pro and Rapture both are designed with this in mind.

This is how it should be done IMHO. Having single instances of multitimbral softsynths hearkens back to the days of external MIDI-driven GM modules. I don't even go for the so-called advantage of having a cleaner desktop with single instances of softsynths. As others have mentioned, Windows cures that issue intrinsically with the Minimize button.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 15:32:49 (permalink)
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Is'nt there a cpu advantage?

No not really. Dimension is a bit different and does not use any significant CPU until a sound is loaded into it. So another instance for a sound versus having the sounds loaded into the same instance would be about the same CPU useage. Dimension Pro and Rapture both are designed with this in mind.

This is how it should be done IMHO. Having single instances of multitimbral softsynths hearkens back to the days of external MIDI-driven GM modules. I don't even go for the so-called advantage of having a cleaner desktop with single instances of softsynths. As others have mentioned, Windows cures that issue intrinsically with the Minimize button.


Yeah, I would tend to agree. It's easier for me to have an instrument for Piano, and one for Bass, etc rather than having a Xylophone, a French Horn, and a Synth Pad (!) all packed into the same window and having to remember which synth holds what sounds. To me it is just much more convenient and tidy to have one sound/one instrument. Multi-timbre instruments were really designed in the day to get around the issue of most people not having 30 different synths in their studio, so you had to squeeze as much as possible out of each one.
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2006/07/24 15:46:18

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 16:18:39 (permalink)
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Is'nt there a cpu advantage?

No not really. Dimension is a bit different and does not use any significant CPU until a sound is loaded into it. So another instance for a sound versus having the sounds loaded into the same instance would be about the same CPU useage. Dimension Pro and Rapture both are designed with this in mind.

This is how it should be done IMHO. Having single instances of multitimbral softsynths hearkens back to the days of external MIDI-driven GM modules. I don't even go for the so-called advantage of having a cleaner desktop with single instances of softsynths. As others have mentioned, Windows cures that issue intrinsically with the Minimize button.


Yeah, I would tend to agree. It's easier for me to have an instrument for Piano, and one for Bass, etc rather than having a Xylophone, a French Horn, and a Synth Pad (!) all packed into the same window and having to remember which synth holds what sounds. To me it is just much more convenient and tidy to have one sound/one instrument. Multi-timbre instruments were really designed in the day to get around the issue of most people not having 30 different synths in their studio, so you had to squeeze as much as possible out of each one.


To me, it's just an issue of being lazy. (Apparently, I'm real big on lazy.) Yeah, you can load in multiple instruments in an instance, but there are instances where a particular patch is already layering more than one sound. But the REAL reason is that I just don't want to be bothered with setting up anything beyond what's already in the preset unless I REALLY, REALLY have to.

I guess if the thing REALLY wanted to do what a multi-timbral synth does, it would let you load up 16 parts and assign them to ANY MIDI channel. But...the point is moot.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 17:24:54 (permalink)
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Multi-timbre instruments were really designed in the day to get around the issue of most people not having 30 different synths in their studio, so you had to squeeze as much as possible out of each one.

Funny you should mention that, Brandon. That is exactly what you had before boxes were multitimbral. (Nevermind what you had before keyboards were MIDI. Or how much you had to haul for a decent live gig back then. Ouch.) It's a strange kind of full-circle thing going on here, but because presets are saved along with the DAW project, it's just easier to throw per-track instances around.

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RE: Dimension Pro: Worthwhile? 2006/07/24 18:32:03 (permalink)
I do mostly audio as well but have been using Dimension Pro as my go to synth for really nice electronic and sampled sounds. I strictly use the presets, and there are a ton! Also use it with P5 and pretty much my only synth, except maybe velocity.

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