Dimension pro 1.5 - Piano - Velocity

Hello. Dimension pro has not work with velocity. My midi keybord has ''touch'' button and its active for sensitivity but nothing happend.  In z3ta+2 for example its fine. Has velocity normal.

I follow this in dimension pro:

1. Open up Dimension, load a program, and open the MIDI Matrix window.
2. In the first available slot in the "Source" column click the small arrow symbol and from the popup list choose "Velocity".
3. In the same slot in the "Destination" column click the small arrow symbol and from the popup list choose "Volume | Volume All".
4. Set depth and smoothness columns to values you determine work best for you through experimentation.

but its not sounds to me like velocity. Piano is too crispy and i try to fix this. I want classic velocity, as in z3ta+2 and other vst instruments.

Please help. Sorry for bad english.

You shouldn't have to make an entry in the MIDI matrix to enable velocity tracking. Dim Pro Pianos have amplitude velocity tracking enabled by default. See the "Veltrack" parameter in the EG section for Amplitude.

I experimented with  Veltrack and vel->int, vel->tim but its not that. What happend with this vst? Sound of piano its too steep and dry.

Please help.

Come on, some help please...

Finally i have same problem in z3ta+2. I work with fl studio 10. If i load fl keys (simple vst of fl studio) velocity are fine. In z3ta, dimension pro and rapture all are straight. Why?

Stratigos,

this is a user forum.  I suggest you ask Cakewalk support.

I can't really understand what your problem is, so I can't offer any help.  I think you are wanting to control something with velocity, but I'm not sure what.  Volume?  The volume might be limited on how low it can go because of another controller (amp envelope or SFZ).  Try loading a different sound into a single element and see if that works how you want it.  If it works like you expect, it is probably in the SFZ file definition.  If you have the same problem, it is probably in the amp settings.

Sorry I can't help more.

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Sonic is talking about different samples triggered by velocity, so the sound doesn't just get louder but brighter, etc.  Some of the dimension pianos use multi-sampled velocities, I think, to make them more realistic.  You should ask Cake. 

But that is more a function of the samples used than the synth.  To achieve the same thing in Dimpro (w/ its true sample playback engine) you would have to go into SFZ programming or grab the text from one of the instruments that does muti-sampled voices via velocity.  Actually, SFZ shouldn't be too hard, tho text-based control is hard to get into.  Just as you spread the samples across the keyboard to trigger different samples, you tell the engine to play a different sample depending upon the velocity.  The sonic boys layered 7 (? I think) different samples across every note and restricted the velocity that any one would play.  A bit tedious.

Rapture and Z3Ta are synths, using a wavetable impression of a sample rather than the sample itself.  I guess you might be able to do something like it, but I don't think the results would be organic.

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Sorry I didn't get back to this thread sooner; I don't keep a very good eye on the Instruments forum.

I'll have to watch the video later, but something's not right if these synths respond differently to velocity (either in volume or sample switching) in another host than they do in SONAR. All I can think would cause this are misconfiguration issues like having Vel+ maxed out on the MIDI track (or the MIDI part of a Simple Instrument track) so everything gets echoed/played back at Velocity 128.

In the specific case of Z3TA+, I know a lot of its patches do not have amplitude/volume response to velocity enabled by default. The drill for doing that is as follows.

Go to the Modulation section at the bottom of the z3ta+ GUI, and set the following values for Source, Range, Curve, Control and Destination:   ON     |||||||||||||||||||||||||     U-Lin+     VELOC     ALL OSC LEVEL