Dimension problems in Sonar

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2005/06/03 20:52:40 (permalink)

Dimension problems in Sonar

Is there anyone else using P5 2.0 through Sonar 4 ????Surely someone has to have the answer to why "Dimension" doesn't act right (distorted with more than one instance).

-Isn't there a 1-800 number or something to get help??

-Didn't the P5 team work with the Sonar team to make sure that they worked with each other ??
-I hate to hear about tinkering with my latency because I hate that delayed reaction when I increase it,so there has to be a better way or I've just wasted my $ on P5.

-I love Sonar and have been using cakewalk since version 1 so I'm really not too interested in using P5 for sequencing and editing. Pluse I don't have time for the learning curve ,especially when you compare the capabilities of a $300 program(P5) to a $600 program(Sonar).

_ I considered many other softsyns but figured that this one would be most compatable with Sonar,now I'm seeing that this might not be the case.....Unless I'm doing something wrong !!!! SO PLEASE HELP IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO.
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    Mike West
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/03 22:43:04 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: jdc1
    Is there anyone else using P5 2.0 through Sonar 4 ????Surely someone has to have the answer to why "Dimension" doesn't act right (distorted with more than one instance).
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    -I love Sonar and have been using cakewalk since version 1 so I'm really not too interested in using P5 for sequencing and editing. Pluse I don't have time for the learning curve ,especially when you compare the capabilities of a $300 program(P5) to a $600 program(Sonar).
    _ I considered many other softsyns but figured that this one would be most compatable with Sonar,now I'm seeing that this might not be the case.....Unless I'm doing something wrong !!!! SO PLEASE HELP IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO.

    jdc1, I've not played with it extensively, but first things first: if you're just after Dimension, for example, can you just DXi-it into Sonar?

    Or are you trying use Re-Wire? If you only purchased it for the soft-synths, I should think never mind P5 at all - just straight DXi my friend.


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    rabeach
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/03 23:45:37 (permalink)
    jdc1 i inserted 3 dimension synths into sonar 3xl with no distortion using the synth rack. don't know about sonar 4.
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    Mitch_I
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/04 09:27:34 (permalink)
    I'm having the same problem, which is a big deal because I like to layer soft synths. Here's what I've found, using Sonar 4.0.2.

    2 instances of TTS-1: OK
    2 instances of FM7 DXi: OK
    1 instance of Dimension and 1 of PSYN II: OK
    2 instances of PSYN II: distortion
    2 instances of Dimension: distortion

    I hope Cakewalk can suggest a solution for this.

    Mitch I.
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    René
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/04 09:44:11 (permalink)
    jdc1, do you have the multi-processor option enabled in Sonar? If so, changing it makes any difference?



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    Mitch_I
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/04 09:59:24 (permalink)
    By the way, I have Use Multiprocessing Engine checked in Sonar.

    And it looks like unchecking it solves the problem.

    I haven't tested performance recently, but I did when I set up my system about six months ago and found that hyperthreading improved performance significantly.

    Mitch I.
    post edited by Mitch_I - 2005/06/04 10:06:49
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    René
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/04 10:55:28 (permalink)
    Thanks Mitch, I didn't see your post before, sorry about that. As Dimension/PSYN were mainly tested using P5v2, we didn't catch the multiprocessing issues. They've been already fixed, and will appear in the next update.


    Cheers,
    -René
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    jdc1
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/05 23:25:15 (permalink)
    Thanks Mitch and Rene' for your response.I'm going to try the "multi-processor option and report back.
    -It's good to know that I'm not the only one having problems but it's wonderful to have people like you that are willing to help.
    - Lately I've been spending so much time learning how to use and configure softsynths that I'm not spending very much time making MUSIC.
    - Rene' you mention that there's a update coming concerning P5 2.0 and Sonar,Is this correct? Are you involved with this and when do you think it will be out ??
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    jdc1
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/05 23:56:04 (permalink)
    Hey Mitch I just tried unenabling
    -"use multiprocessing engine" under the
    - "advance tab" of Audio "Options"(for those who may be having the same problem).....
    Dimension works great now(tried with 2 instances and no distortion).
    THANKS THANKS THANKS !!!!
    -But what does that option do so I'll know what to expect not to work???
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    Mitch_I
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/06 08:19:58 (permalink)
    jdc1,

    "Multiprocessor engine" is also called hyperthreading. You can think of it as a way to make your CPU act like two CPUs. (To see if it's enabled, open Task Manager and see if there are two side-by-side graphs in CPU Usage History under Performance.) It's a feature of some CPU models and has to be set up when you install Windows. As I said, I did some tests and found that Sonar ran more efficiently with hyperthreading enabled and this option checked. Unfortunately some applications don't work well with hyperthreading enabled, and I think we're seeing a tiny example of that here. The good news is that we have an easy and temporary workaround.

    Mitch I.
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    lanstrad
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/07 22:09:22 (permalink)
    I do not see this option in the ADVANCED tab of audio...

    Are we talking about Sonar 4 P here ?...

    Thanks,

    Rob

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    Mitch_I
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar 2005/06/08 08:11:07 (permalink)
    Rob,

    Yes, Sonar 4. And I think also 3. Maybe if you don't have hyperthreading enabled in your system, Sonar doesn't offer you the "Use Multiprocessing Engine" option. Check your Task Manager to see if you have it enabled.

    Mitch I.
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    Mitch_I
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    RE: Dimension problems in Sonar - update 2005/06/18 09:47:00 (permalink)
    This problem is fixed by the P5 2.01 patch.

    Thanks, René and Cakewalk.

    Mitch I.
    post edited by Mitch_I - 2005/06/18 09:50:12
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