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2013/09/30 08:51:12 (permalink)

Disappearing GUI in X3

I know I must be missing something, it's usually user error..
 
I've been using the Nomad Pulteq EQ in X3 on a couple of tracks, and leaving the plug's GUI open so that I can tweak it as I go along.
 
Every time I change screensets, the GUI has disappeared when I return to that screenset, and I have to reopen it.
 
A minor thing, I know - what am I missing?
 
It gets strange - I tried several other plugs as I was writing this, and the same happened, including the GUI of EZdrummer.  I restarted Sonar, and now EZdrummer is there when I switch back, but any FX GUI disappears.
post edited by jb101 - 2013/10/01 19:10:59

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 10:06:45 (permalink)
    I was wondering if you had the plugin docked at the time. If not can you try it docked and see if you get the same result?

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 10:17:30 (permalink)
    Thanks for posting.  It seems to happen even if the plug is docked.  When I go back the multidock only has the console view in.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 10:31:20 (permalink)
    is the screenset locked?
     
    It won't save changes if it is.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 12:05:05 (permalink)
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    is the screenset locked?
     
    It won't save changes if it is.


    ^^^ This.
     
    You start by unlocking the screenset, open your plugins GUI, then lock the screenset again

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 13:17:27 (permalink)
    yeah I should have been more complete. I had a toddler hanging on me and was trying to step it though. :)

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 17:47:03 (permalink)
    Thanks for your suggestions.  No, the screensets are not locked.  That ws the first thing I looked for.
     
    The behaviour gets odder.  I tried again in a different project.  I have tried various plugs, both in the FX bin, and in an FX chain module in the PC.  The plug in the FX bin remains there when I switch back, but the plug in in the PC is there, but blank - just an empty shell.
     
    Anyone?

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 17:54:43 (permalink)
    jb101
    Thanks for your suggestions.  No, the screensets are not locked.  That ws the first thing I looked for.
     
    The behaviour gets odder.  I tried again in a different project.  I have tried various plugs, both in the FX bin, and in an FX chain module in the PC.  The plug in the FX bin remains there when I switch back, but the plug in in the PC is there, but blank - just an empty shell.
     
    Anyone?




    Could you post a video of this?  There is some cool video capture software called "Jing" that is free.  It will give you a link that you can use to post here.

    http://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
     
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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 18:02:02 (permalink)
    I'll do it now.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 18:40:57 (permalink)
    First video didn't seem to work, so uploading second attempt now.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 18:50:41 (permalink)
    Here you are, Dan.
     
    video removed
    post edited by jb101 - 2013/10/01 19:10:38

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 19:28:29 (permalink)
    Guess it has something to do with my download speeds (here in the fens), but I need to hit pause, and then play, for the video to continue past the first few seconds and then play all the way trough.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 20:22:57 (permalink)
    Off to bed now (It's nearly half one in the morning here).
     
    I'll check back in tomorrow, if anyone has any ideas.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/09/30 21:03:46 (permalink)
    Looks like a bug from here.  The VST GUIs don't seem to survive changing screensets:(
     
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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 04:15:31 (permalink)
    Hmmm..
     
    I've just tried this in X2 and am getting the same behaviour.  I'm pretty sure that it didn't do this before I installed X3.  I almost never use the FX bin - I always use the FX chain module in the PC, so I would have thought that I would have noticed this before..
     
    Video in post #11

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 04:58:16 (permalink)
    Used to be because of X-Ray on earlier versions. for me I turned off X-Ray and the waves ssl plugins that had the problem work ok now.
     
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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 10:31:05 (permalink)
    Thanks for the suggestion, Roy.
     
    I have not had this happen before I installed X3, I think.
     
    I'll look into the X-ray thing, though.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 11:14:10 (permalink)
    Try this with a new projects started froms scrash in X3

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 11:50:55 (permalink)
    Thanks for the suggestion, Zo.
     
    I have tried this with a new project started in X3, and with old X2 projects.
     
    It only seems to affect Plug Ins inserted in the FX chain module in the PC, not effects in the FX bin.
     
    Sometimes they disappear completely, and sometimes you get the blank plug GUI as seen in the video.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 13:54:19 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the suggestion, Zo.
     
    I have tried this with a new project started in X3, and with old X2 projects.
     
    It only seems to affect Plug Ins inserted in the FX chain module in the PC, not effects in the FX bin.
     
    Sometimes they disappear completely, and sometimes you get the blank plug GUI as seen in the video.




    I thought someone else had also reported a PC FX chain/multi-dock issue?    Or was I hallucinating, again.
     
     

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 13:56:55 (permalink)
    We are looking into this right now. We have the files in house. 
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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 15:23:25 (permalink)
    Thank you, Andrew.  I know Dan Gonzalez has been looking at it for me.
     
    @Stevec - was it reported in X3, can you remember?  I remember something about the multidock, but this happens if the plug is docked or not.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 15:46:38 (permalink)
    JB I'm hoping it all works out for you. 

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 16:59:16 (permalink)
    Thank you, John.
     
    It is a minor issue, I can cope with an extra mouse click.   I would just like to know why it is happening now.  Dan Gonzalez is being very good and offering suggestions via P.M.
     
    I just don't like the idea of something unexplained happening.  I only noticed it after installing X3, but that is not to say it didn't appear earlier and I have only just picked up on it.  It only affects plugs in the FX chain module, on any project, new or old, sparse or dense.  And it seems to be happening in X2 as well.
     
    Ho hum.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 17:56:12 (permalink)
    How do I send a .cwb file to Cakewalk?

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 18:00:55 (permalink)
    pm the staffer that has been helping you. They will give you instructions.
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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 18:05:38 (permalink)
    Thanks, scook.  Dan asked me to send one, so I will await his advice.  Thanks again.
     
     
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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 18:35:05 (permalink)
    After watching the video, I was able to repeat this error.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 19:09:40 (permalink)
    Thanks, gswitz, I was starting to think I was going mad..  (madder)
     
    I've just had an email from techsmith to say that I am approaching my transfer limit, so I am taking the video down for now.
     
    Thanks for trying it out.

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    Re: Disappearing GUI in X3 2013/10/01 19:21:41 (permalink)
    If you want, I could easily make a video and post it to YouTube. Just ask.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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