Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install

Author
Post
Essentials Only Full Version
jimusic
Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1325
  • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
  • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
  • Status: offline
2015/08/31 23:55:35 (permalink)

Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install

As the title says, I've done a complete disk wipe, format and OS install.

At a few stages along the way I'd like to do a disk image and then incrementally or even a few more full images at certain points there after.

Any suggestions?

Thanks Buds,

J



 
 
#1

21 Replies Related Threads
    bapu
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 86000
    • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
    • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 11:02:10 (permalink)
    Acronis

    My name is Ed. I Am still bapu though.
    My Studio
     
    www.beyondmydaw.com
     
    The Forum Monkeys
    BJZ
    BBZ 
    The Coffee House Collaborators 
    Fizzy Pickle
    The Coffee House Band
    Stan Dupp and The Jennifer Tillies
    BAPU
    #2
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 11:06:59 (permalink)
    Ditto. Version 16 of true image just released. You need an external hard drive for backups.

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #3
    mettelus
    Max Output Level: -22 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 5321
    • Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
    • Location: Maryland, USA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 12:29:21 (permalink)
    When I redid my machine, I used the same mentality. I disconnected all drives except the C: during the reload and brought Windows back up, then ran all priority updates, and tweaks on the system to benchmark it and ensure stability. After loading essentials, I connected the other drives and did an initial image with Macrium Reflect (free version). I did a second image after installing the programs I use and verifying build. Those are the only two images performed thus far and reside on a secondary HDD.
     
    The free version of Macrium Reflect will only allow full restores (cannot extract files from the image), which is fine for this use. One thing I did notice when restoring an image to test it was that the C: drive required a reformat first, it seems to have issues with the boot partition unless that has been formatted.

    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1070Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
    #4
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 14:44:05 (permalink)
    mettelus
    The free version of Macrium Reflect will only allow full restores (cannot extract files from the image), which is fine for this use. One thing I did notice when restoring an image to test it was that the C: drive required a reformat first, it seems to have issues with the boot partition unless that has been formatted.


    To create a master boot record boot off windows CD media and go to the command prompt.

    Type fdisk /MBR.

    You may need to use BCDEDIT command as well depend on what the situation is.

    It sounds to me your boot partition was created on a previous version of Windows and is effectively useless. You should get rid of it (be careful though to boot off your OS partition, google on how to do this, be careful!).
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/01 14:53:16

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #5
    jimusic
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1325
    • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
    • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 15:01:13 (permalink)
    bapu
    Acronis


    Free or paid version?
     
    But didn't I read here just a few weeks ago that are problems with the new version?
     
     



     
     
    #6
    Mesh
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 27360
    • Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08
    • Location: Online right here!
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 15:35:58 (permalink)
    Not sure what the free version offers, but when it's as important as doing backups/imaging/boot disks etc..., I'd definitely go with the paid version.
     
    I only have Acronis 13 and it has worked out great. Not sure about the newest version and the good Doc should chime in shortly.

    Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock Formula
    I7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X
    250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDD
    Win 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler 
    HIS IceQ  2GB HD 7870
    Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
    The_Forum_Monkeys
    #7
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/01 17:34:06 (permalink)
    There is a free version of True image? News to me thought it just had a 30 day trial.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/01 17:42:14

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #8
    jih64
    Max Output Level: -75 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 797
    • Joined: 2014/01/30 20:59:40
    • Location: Studio One 3
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/02 03:20:06 (permalink)
    jimusic
    bapu
    Acronis


    Free or paid version?
     
    But didn't I read here just a few weeks ago that are problems with the new version?
     
     



    No problems at all with TI 2016, or 2015 for that matter. Both work wonderfully for me.
    #9
    slartabartfast
    Max Output Level: -22.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 5289
    • Joined: 2005/10/30 01:38:34
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/02 05:31:25 (permalink)
    You can still do a system image backup in Windows 10 without using any other application.
     
    http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-create-and-restore-a-system-image-in-windows-8-1-and-10
     
    #10
    mettelus
    Max Output Level: -22 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 5321
    • Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
    • Location: Maryland, USA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/02 12:21:27 (permalink)
    Doktor Avalanche
    mettelus
    The free version of Macrium Reflect will only allow full restores (cannot extract files from the image), which is fine for this use. One thing I did notice when restoring an image to test it was that the C: drive required a reformat first, it seems to have issues with the boot partition unless that has been formatted.


    To create a master boot record boot off windows CD media and go to the command prompt.

    Type fdisk /MBR.

    You may need to use BCDEDIT command as well depend on what the situation is.

    It sounds to me your boot partition was created on a previous version of Windows and is effectively useless. You should get rid of it (be careful though to boot off your OS partition, google on how to do this, be careful!).



    Macrium has a post on this issue and a script to supposedly repair, but seemed like the MBR was off limits to it (i.e., that repair script failed). The solution I chose was to simply use the Win7 DVD to boot and perform the format, but backed out of the installation. I then booted from the DVD created by Macrium Reflect (very important step to create this DVD), and the image restoration had nothing existing to compete with.

    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1070Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
    #11
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/02 16:12:42 (permalink)
    FYI formatting does not actually create a MBR, FDISK /mbr (from admin command prompt) does it and it won't wipe your hard drive (just boot record). Takes a second.

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #12
    jimusic
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1325
    • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
    • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/02 19:43:05 (permalink)
    slartabartfast
    You can still do a system image backup in Windows 10 without using any other application.
     
    http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-create-and-restore-a-system-image-in-windows-8-1-and-10
     


    I'm still on Windows 7 there slart.



     
     
    #13
    slartabartfast
    Max Output Level: -22.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 5289
    • Joined: 2005/10/30 01:38:34
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/02 23:00:10 (permalink)
    jimusic
    slartabartfast
    You can still do a system image backup in Windows 10 without using any other application.
     
    http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-create-and-restore-a-system-image-in-windows-8-1-and-10
     


    I'm still on Windows 7 there slart.


    Even better, the built in image backup in windows 7 is easier to understand and mount as a virtual disk so you can restore single files. 
     
    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4241/how-to-create-a-system-image-in-windows-7/
    http://www.howtogeek.com/125704/how-to-extract-individual-files-from-a-windows-7-system-image-backup/
     
     
    #14
    jimusic
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1325
    • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
    • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 00:07:57 (permalink)
    slartabartfast
    jimusic
    slartabartfast
    You can still do a system image backup in Windows 10 without using any other application.
     
    http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-create-and-restore-a-system-image-in-windows-8-1-and-10
     


    I'm still on Windows 7 there slart.


    Even better, the built in image backup in windows 7 is easier to understand and mount as a virtual disk so you can restore single files. 
     
    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4241/how-to-create-a-system-image-in-windows-7/
    http://www.howtogeek.com/125704/how-to-extract-individual-files-from-a-windows-7-system-image-backup/
     
     


    Ok thanks Man, I'll check out the links.
     
    Meanwhile, how about reliability though?



     
     
    #15
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 05:18:26 (permalink)
    Although the MS backup isn't very simple if you need to restore the entire OS partition. It's possible but a lot more complex than Acronis. You need to boot off a disk for that away from the current operating system (Acronis has an excellent recovery disk easy to create).
     
    Also don't know about compatibility with Windows images when you decide to update the operating system, certainly windows backup won't handle non windows filing systems either.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/03 05:27:49

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #16
    jimusic
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1325
    • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
    • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 12:40:34 (permalink)
    Doktor Avalanche
    Although the MS backup isn't very simple if you need to restore the entire OS partition. It's possible but a lot more complex than Acronis. You need to boot off a disk for that away from the current operating system (Acronis has an excellent recovery disk easy to create).
     
    Also don't know about compatibility with Windows images when you decide to update the operating system, certainly windows backup won't handle non windows filing systems either.


    Good to know. Thanks Dok. I'm feelin' better already! Lol
     
    I do have the original Windows 7 install disk kept in a safe.
     
    Would I need to create a separate disk for the back up that's specific to Acronis, or Paragon, or Macrium, or will the Microsoft original OS disk do?
    post edited by jimusic - 2015/09/03 13:25:42



     
     
    #17
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 17:53:46 (permalink)
    For acronis you just create a recovery disk from the app. Easy.


    For Windows 7 restore see here:
    http://www.howtogeek.com/...-from-an-image-backup/
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/03 18:02:46

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #18
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 18:02:41 (permalink)
    Win 8.1 and win 10 backup is better than win7 backup I believe.
    http://m.windowscentral.c...full-backup-windows-pc

    Acronis is just more flexible, faster and (IMHO) simpler.

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #19
    jimusic
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1325
    • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
    • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 18:55:06 (permalink)
    Doktor Avalanche
    For acronis you just create a recovery disk from the app. Easy.


    For Windows 7 restore see here:
    http://www.howtogeek.com/...-from-an-image-backup/

    Would a CD be enough space, or do I need a DVD - [I don't have any more blank ones right now, but I have lot's of blank CDs]?



     
     
    #20
    Doktor Avalanche
    Max Output Level: -32.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4294
    • Joined: 2015/03/26 18:02:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 19:56:16 (permalink)
    Get an external hard drive for backups.

    Can't remember of it's a CD or DVD. You can also boot off USB.

    https://kb.acronis.com/content/4828

    There should also be a 30 day trial.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/03 20:05:02

    Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.6,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),2 x 1TB SSD (Samsung EVO 850),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5. Rap Pro,Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1,Addictive Keys,Waves Silver,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist,Acronis True Image 2015.
    #21
    jimusic
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1325
    • Joined: 2008/05/21 18:59:52
    • Location: Near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    • Status: offline
    Re: Disk Image Suggestions For Clean Re-Install 2015/09/03 21:00:12 (permalink)
    Doktor Avalanche
    Get an external hard drive for backups.

    Can't remember of it's a CD or DVD. You can also boot off USB.

    https://kb.acronis.com/content/4828

    There should also be a 30 day trial.

    Yup - I have a 1TB external USB 3 drive just for this.



     
     
    #22
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1