Distortion in Joni Mitchell's "Car On A Hill"

Author
sharke
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 13933
  • Joined: 2012/08/03 00:13:00
  • Location: NYC
  • Status: offline
2014/06/17 21:59:56 (permalink)

Distortion in Joni Mitchell's "Car On A Hill"

Been one of my favorite tracks for years - I think the songwriting, arrangement and playing on it is just fantastic. However I've always wondered about that horrible clipping which happens about a minute into the song, during the bridge. It really sounds like the master bus was majorly overloaded during this section and it almost makes my eyes water every time I listen to it. For years I thought I had a suspect copy of the CD but of course since then I've heard it from other sources (on the radio, on Spotify etc) and the same distortion can be heard. 
 
So this kind of makes me curious. How did something like that slip through the net? I'm presuming that whenever it was mixed, someone had their eye on the VU meters. Did they just leave it in there for artistic effect or something? Seems strange when you think about the lengths people go to in order to balance levels at their optimum. I've heard of people clipping for artistic effect, but that to me always sounded like when someone taped an album for you and they set the levels too high. 

James
Windows 10, Sonar SPlat (64-bit), Intel i7-4930K, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, AKAI MPK Mini, Roland A-800 Pro, Focusrite VRM Box, Komplete 10 Ultimate, 2012 American Telecaster!
#1

4 Replies Related Threads

    bitflipper
    01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
    • Total Posts : 26036
    • Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
    • Location: Everett, WA USA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Distortion in Joni Mitchell's "Car On A Hill" 2014/06/17 23:05:18 (permalink)
    You're assuming it happened during mixing or mastering. It could have happened while tracking, which may have been done in an entirely different studio or even on another continent.
     
    I'm guessing she showed up, sang the song and split. This is what happens when artists think it's beneath them to stay involved in the process beyond the performance.
     
    I'm still trying to figure out how Rush ended up with that horrid Vapor Trails album - surely they're at a point where they can call the shots in the studio, but I'm guessing Neil's biking buddies were waiting for him out in the parking lot.


    All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. 

    My Stuff
    #2
    drewfx1
    Max Output Level: -9.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 6585
    • Joined: 2008/08/04 16:19:11
    • Status: offline
    Re: Distortion in Joni Mitchell's "Car On A Hill" 2014/06/17 23:50:35 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    I'm still trying to figure out how Rush ended up with that horrid Vapor Trails album - surely they're at a point where they can call the shots in the studio, but I'm guessing Neil's biking buddies were waiting for him out in the parking lot.




    Don't be too sure about a band's power. I always remember this old SOS article with Tori Amos repeating advice she had gotten from Peter Gabrial on why she built her own studio:
     
    http://www.soundonsound.c.../articles/toriamos.htm
     

    "Peter said to me 'You've made some successful records, but I want to know where you're going to be in 10 years time. There will be good times and bad times with your record label, and to develop your music you need a workshop, a place to experiment.' I had no idea how right he was going to be. Had I not listened to him, I don't think I would have survived the war with Atlantic Records. But we were here in Martian Engineering, and we were in control and in command of the music and the record company only had access to the master tapes that I gave them. I've heard stories of artists standing outside and banging on doors, screaming 'Give me my #%%$# masters!'"


     In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
    #3
    sharke
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 13933
    • Joined: 2012/08/03 00:13:00
    • Location: NYC
    • Status: offline
    Re: Distortion in Joni Mitchell's "Car On A Hill" 2014/06/18 22:17:24 (permalink)
    I guess I'm also underestimating the amount of herb that was consumed during recording sessions in those days!

    James
    Windows 10, Sonar SPlat (64-bit), Intel i7-4930K, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, AKAI MPK Mini, Roland A-800 Pro, Focusrite VRM Box, Komplete 10 Ultimate, 2012 American Telecaster!
    #4
    The Band19
    Max Output Level: -47.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2795
    • Joined: 2012/05/29 19:21:32
    • Status: offline
    Re: Distortion in Joni Mitchell's "Car On A Hill" 2014/06/19 22:26:48 (permalink)
    They pave paradise?
     
    My best recommendation on saturation is
     
    http://www.fabfilter.com/products/saturn.php 

    Sittin downtown in a railway station one toke over the line.
    #5
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1