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Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
Does anyone know if you solo an Aux track or a Bus does the external insert remain active? because apparently historically it did not. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
September 02, 16 1:48 AM
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I don't recall the historic behavior, but it seems that soloing an Aux track or bus does kill the EI.
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Re: Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
September 02, 16 5:46 AM
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Thanks for the feedback Dave.
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Re: Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
September 02, 16 8:48 AM
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I find that if I solo a bus with an external insert, it isn't the EI that goes silent, it's like muting the entire channel. I use an EI for a hardware compressor on the master channel. Not only does it turn off the sound entirely when I solo the master bus, Sonar goes completely silent when I solo any of the busses. So I can't solo the drums bus, guitar bus, background vocals, etc. Apparently this problem is too dificult to fix for reasons that those of us without expertese in software architecture can't understand. There is a workaround, though: group the tracks you want to solo in the track or console view and solo them that way.
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Re: Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
September 02, 16 9:02 AM
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Hi Wookiee, Yep, longstanding known bug. Reported by me and submitted to development on January 3rd 2014. CWBRN-18719.
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Re: Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
September 02, 16 12:55 AM
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Thanks for the feedback Dean, I was asking not because I use it but because someone asked me. Appreciate all those who responded thanks for your time guys.
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Re: Do external inserts go quite when soloing an Aux track or Bus with an external insert?
September 02, 16 4:32 PM
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jonnewyork I find that if I solo a bus with an external insert, it isn't the EI that goes silent, it's like muting the entire channel. I use an EI for a hardware compressor on the master channel. Not only does it turn off the sound entirely when I solo the master bus, Sonar goes completely silent when I solo any of the busses. So I can't solo the drums bus, guitar bus, background vocals, etc.
The reason I said it kills the EI is that any plugins in front of the EI - and the EI's send meter - continue to show signal; only the EI's return meter goes dead. But since it's an insert, that will naturally silence the output of the Master bus and everything that goes through it in your case. Soloing a bus 'invisibly' solos everything downstream of it, so it's not completely surprising that soloing a sub-bus going to Master has the same effect on the EI as soloing the Master directly.
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