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2011/08/19 18:38:53 (permalink)

Does CW really test anything before they release it us ?

I mean are you seriously kidding me??? what part of the separate snap settings has been fixed in X1 C ? 1) The grids don't remember what settings you have it set to after you quit and come back to the project. 2) The notes don't align at all all over the place. cant snap to the girds. 3) doesn't remember you last Midi note duration. until when are we supposed to rely in Ben to help us out with sonar plus ?

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/19 18:53:03 (permalink)
    Do you have the settings check marked?

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/19 19:31:40 (permalink)
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      1) The grids don't remember what settings you have it set to after you quit and come back to the project.

    That's definitely working for me.

    2) The notes don't align at all all over the place. cant snap to the girds.

    This sounds like magnetic Snap is on. Go to Settings > Customisation > Snap and nudge and change Magnetic Snap to "Off". This is a per project setting, so you'll have to do it in every project.

    3) doesn't remember you last Midi note duration.

    You have to tell it to do that. In the note length setting in the control bar or in the pop up HUD (T key or middle mouse) there is a new option in the length drop down for "last selected".



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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/19 19:40:47 (permalink)
    yeah, it's working fine for me too.
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/19 19:40:47 (permalink)
    yeah, it's working fine for me too.
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/20 16:03:10 (permalink)
    Still doesn't work for me 1 In the PRV i go to View Grid resolution and pick 1/16 save the project quit then go back in and its back to 1/4 2 Midi notes i have it set to off and i still cant draw notes on notes where i want it. I can only draw notes on the MAJOR Rules ONLY not even the beat Rules. the notes automatically snap to the Majors Rules. can you guys help me figure this out. The only way i can freely draw notes where i want it and have it snap normally is with Help of sonar plus other then that it wont work. thanks

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/20 16:18:31 (permalink)
    Still doesn't work for me 1 In the PRV i go to View Grid resolution and pick 1/16 save the project quit then go back in and its back to 1/4

    I've reported what I believe is a bug and what you may be seeing. If you have snap-to turned off the PRV always defaults its grid back to 1/4. I'm awaiting confirmation on that from CW.


    Midi notes i have it set to off and i still cant draw notes on notes where i want it. I can only draw notes on the MAJOR Rules ONLY not even the beat Rules. the notes automatically snap to the Majors Rules



    With the snap, are you working with a drum map? If so there's a confirmed bug with that. The snap-to ignores the PRV snap and uses the global one instead, which if it's set to measure will give the results you are seeing.
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/20 19:04:42 (permalink)
    Does CW really test anything before they release it us ?

    No. They just call it a fix, put it online for everyone to download, and watch the forums to read your reactions.

    C'mon brother.....you can do better than this and get a lot of help here if you'd just phrase your questions in a positive tone.   
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/21 16:52:25 (permalink)
    +1
     
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    Does CW really test anything before they release it us ?

    No. They just call it a fix, put it online for everyone to download, and watch the forums to read your reactions.

    C'mon brother.....you can do better than this and get a lot of help here if you'd just phrase your questions in a positive tone.   




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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/21 17:11:57 (permalink)
    i still cant get them to work correctly without sonarplus I can only draw notes on the MAJOR Rules ONLY not even the beat Rules. the notes automatically snap to the Majors Rules

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/21 19:44:22 (permalink)
    Have you checked the Magnetic Snap setting?

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/21 20:13:07 (permalink)
    With the snap, are you working with a drum map? If so there's a confirmed bug with that. The snap-to ignores the PRV snap and uses the global one instead, which if it's set to measure will give the results you are seeing.
     
    Hey FastBikerBoy, how do you know this is a confirmed bug? I'm seeing this too! Which really stinks because I do most of my PRV editing on drums in a drum map. Any indication the bakers will address this in a quick fix? Was this covered in another thread? I was excited about this new feature! Bummer!
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/21 20:30:14 (permalink)
    Not to speak for FBB, but in case he's not around; this came up in a thread last week, and someone from Cake came on and confirmed it as a bug. If memory serves, they also suggested a good workaround, but FBB will remember better than I, as he tried it out.

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/22 01:45:45 (permalink)
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    With the snap, are you working with a drum map? If so there's a confirmed bug with that. The snap-to ignores the PRV snap and uses the global one instead, which if it's set to measure will give the results you are seeing.
     
    Hey FastBikerBoy, how do you know this is a confirmed bug? I'm seeing this too! Which really stinks because I do most of my PRV editing on drums in a drum map. Any indication the bakers will address this in a quick fix? Was this covered in another thread? I was excited about this new feature! Bummer!


    Hi there

    As John T said it came up last week. Starting a new project just happened to coincide with X1c being released so I was doing a lot of work with the step sequencer, drum maps, and the PRV. Most of my troubles related to the step sequencer but the common denominator for just about all of them was drum maps.

    If you are working in the step sequencer you can use that to map drum port outs rather than a drum map. I don't think there's anyway of remapping note in to note outs though so it's not quite as powerful. This also isn't going to help you much in the PRV. All I done to work round that one was set the out to one of my drum machines and then reset it to the map when I'd finished editing.

    I know the following are all confirmed as I've had replies to my bug reports. I don't know if you've ever sent in a bug report before but you'll get some sort of  reply, usually either saying they can't replicate it, it's intended behaviour or in the case of the lot below they are confirmed and "Submitted to development"

    Time frame for fixing is another issue. I have no idea when, if ever, but I'm sure something like the snap not working properly should get fixed fairly quickly - don't quote me on it though.

    Anyway the bugs relating to drum maps I reported and had confirmed last week are..........

    CWBRN-5782, Minor Step sequencer velocity display issue (this one was unrelated to drum maps)
    CWBRN-5786, Cannot use separate snap to settings in PRV if output is a drum map
    CWBRN-5787, Step Sequencer is blank when double clicking on a clip assigned to a drum map
    CWBRN-5794, Step sequencer clips truncate on bounce to clip (has been there since at least V8.3 but I could never pin it down).
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/22 05:54:48 (permalink)
    Got my report in too. It's CWBRN-5816.. Thanks for your help FBB!
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/22 13:50:54 (permalink)
    Still doesn't work for me 1 In the PRV i go to View Grid resolution and pick 1/16 save the project quit then go back in and its back to 1/4

    I've reported what I believe is a bug and what you may be seeing. If you have snap-to turned off the PRV always defaults its grid back to 1/4. I'm awaiting confirmation on that from CW.



    This bug has now been confirmed by CW and "Submitted to development".......


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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/22 19:17:37 (permalink)
    its just frustrating for those who work with midi a lot and still have problems till this day. IF you don't use it then its no big deal but when you use the one toll that you use 90% of the time then you will understand. X1 came out had problems with it X1-A same X1 quick fixes FIXED none of those issues X1-B what happen here ???? and now with X1 C still the same problem come on

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/22 20:43:48 (permalink)
    I've been doing a project with very detailed MIDI editing the last four or five days, and it's working fine for me. What problems are you still having?

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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 03:26:00 (permalink)
    X1c seems to have introduced a couple of bugs along with the separate snap settings but I'm not seeing anything that's been there since day one.

    What exactly are you referring to?


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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 11:52:34 (permalink)
    Does CW really test anything before they release it us



    this is common practice these days to release beta version of program and let the users do the testing :)
    it's call agile programming  
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:11:55 (permalink)
    I prefer argyle programming.


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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:12:55 (permalink)
    Hey, everybody!  This thread was just tested upstairs and now it's been released in the Coffee House. 

    We'll just confirm it's not radioactive.  In the meantime, watch your step...
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:14:45 (permalink)
    UbiquitousBubba

      In the meantime, watch Bapu's step... 




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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:15:10 (permalink)
    bapu


    I prefer argyle programming.


     
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:18:31 (permalink)
    Do ya think that guy bought those shoes before trying them on?
    Maybe they're killing his feet and he's just not saying anything so
    he won't sound..well...for not trying them on first.
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:18:48 (permalink)
    Somebody's getting ready for movie night...
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:19:27 (permalink)
    I feel pretty
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    Re:Does CW really test anything before they release it us ? 2011/08/23 12:20:06 (permalink)
    Bapu, did you encourage them to do this? (naughty...naughty!!!)

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    Does CW really test anything before they release it us? Yes, your patience. 2011/08/23 19:16:54 (permalink)
    I figure (since I'm stuck WAAAAAAY back on SONAR 4 Producer until I can get a new machine) that all of you ARE my beta-testers!  Once you've worked out all the bugs, then I can step in and upgrade.

    Ok, that's enough reading.  Back to work now.
     
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    Does CW really detest these posts before they dump them on us ? 2011/08/23 19:47:23 (permalink)
    Does CW really detest these posts before they dump them on us ?

    If so why do they think we'll like them any better?

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