Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ??

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2013/05/22 10:44:24 (permalink)

Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ??

 
Does using Fast Bounce actually effect the quality of the bounced audio in any way?  I've always un-selected it when exporting audio or using bounce to track thinking the quality was better NOT using fast bounce.

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    dantarbill
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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 10:46:11 (permalink)
    No

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 10:49:01 (permalink)
    To add: You may run into a plugin FX that doesn't like the fast bounce and you may need to disable it when exporting, but this is a rare occasion.

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 11:03:44 (permalink)
    Nebula3 is one such plugin
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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 11:07:20 (permalink)
    It's all number crunching,,, computers are good at that,, one would hope...

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 11:36:02 (permalink)
    BFD2 doesn't like to be fast bounced/exported, at least on my system

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 12:08:24 (permalink)
    Changing "BounceBufSizeMsec" to  zero in pref/config file can help with timing issues/time based effects going screwy when you fast bounce.
     
    Since I did this I've had no problems with fast bounce. 

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/22 12:10:09 (permalink)
    It's pretty simple. If your plug-ins work with fast bounce enabled, use it if you wish, there will be no difference in quality. If you have plug-ins that cannot handle fast bounce, don't use it. It is pretty obvious when fast bounce does not work, the output, if any, will be distorted.
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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/23 16:57:00 (permalink)
    does anyone have the list of plugins that are fast bounce capable?

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/23 17:52:49 (permalink)
    In my experience most are, that is why it is the default option. I have not cataloged the exceptions.
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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/24 03:37:32 (permalink)
    On my setup it's only BFD2 that necessitates a real time bounce/export

    Everything else plays quite nicely with the 'fast' equivalent


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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/24 03:44:36 (permalink)
    I have found on the odd occasion especially when there are few reverbs involved that fast bouncing produced slightly erratic results (in the reverbs that is) compared to the music playing in real time. I use real time bouncing and the problems went away. It does not happen often either.

    I think it is just the odd plugin behaves different under these two scenarios. If you suspect it then do a real time bounce to be sure.  

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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/24 04:16:02 (permalink)
    Melodyne plugin is ignored when Fast Bounce is used - that needs real time bouncing to work. Oh, and that applies to the final mix too - so to save time you will probably want to track bounce all your Melodyne stuff once you're happy with it rather than having to run off real-time mixes.
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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/24 09:06:59 (permalink)
    Waves Trans-X likes a slow bounce. Many Omnisphere patches prefer it. Sometimes very large Kontakt libraries need it. If you're using an external hard drive for samples the probability goes up that you'll need a slow bounce. Exhausting RAM may prevent a fast bounce. 

    As a general rule, you'll avoid problems with the slow bounce. I have only encountered one instance where a plugin required a fast bounce: using MIDI automation with SampleTank. In one project, I had both MIDI in ST2.5 and Trans-X. To work around the conflicting requirements, I first froze SampleTank with a fast bounce and then exported the project using slow bounce.

    But these are all cases where particular plugins just don't work right with a fast bounce, and have nothing to do with audio quality. 1 + 1 = 2 whether you do it as fast as possible or wait 22.7 microseconds at the equals sign.


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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/24 10:20:58 (permalink)
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    Melodyne plugin is ignored when Fast Bounce is used - that needs real time bouncing to work. Oh, and that applies to the final mix too - so to save time you will probably want to track bounce all your Melodyne stuff once you're happy with it rather than having to run off real-time mixes.


    I've just got Melodyne and was wondering if bounce to clips made the edits perminent. Do you know?
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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/25 01:26:27 (permalink)

    This is strange...because I've used Melodyne quite a lot and my finished mixes sound just fine when I use fast bounce when exporting the audio mix.  Melodyne is not affected at all by using fast bounce on my system...it works perfectly....and I don't bounce any individual tracks first before mixing.

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    Melodyne plugin is ignored when Fast Bounce is used - that needs real time bouncing to work. Oh, and that applies to the final mix too - so to save time you will probably want to track bounce all your Melodyne stuff once you're happy with it rather than having to run off real-time mixes.



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    Re:Does Fast Bounce effect the Quality of the audio ?? 2013/05/25 01:32:35 (permalink)
    If Melodyne does not fail consistently with fast bounce, it sounds more like a resource/config issue than a problem with the plug-in itself.
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