fabadder
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Does P5 do what Kore does?
Hi-
I use quite a few of NI products and other developers vst plugins, and I have to admit I have been salivating over Kore. I downloaded the demo, and had quite a bit of fun with the program. I don't like the idea that you can't buy the software separately and have to get the interface with it. The more that I look at P5, the more that I realise that it very nearly capable of doing what Kore does. If P5 used a track envelope and allowed you to use one pattern to control all synths, they would be a much better option to NI's. It would also be fantastic if you could save the track envelope as a group. Maybe they are already considering this for version 3? Any others thought about this and have any opinions (they are always valued!)?
Have a good one
Jim
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syrath
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/12 16:38:38
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I made the same point some time ago when Kore came out it sounded like a more refined version of device chains.
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fabadder
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/12 16:51:43
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That's a great way to put it Stuart...It seems like it wouldn't be too far fetched to think that Cakewalk would be able to implement this with not too much difficulty (although I'm not a programmer, nor do I portray one!)
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syrath
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/12 17:03:48
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If I remember in Kore you can use multiple synths. If that was the case then its not that much of a stretch to be able to do this. 2 device chains. load each up , then if you click the midi override switch on one track, then click the other while holding control, the midi would be routed to both.
Now with the upcoming pre/post fader options on the bus routing and you then have combined output to make one effects bus for the 2 device chains (common compressor EQ etc to help the sound mesh). You then have the ability to play layered sounds in much the same way as core (in fact you can have as many instruments layered as your computer can handle).
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Ognis
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/12 18:14:52
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Sounds like SoundForge. The device chains. I've never used Kore, but the Kore browser in their synths is awsome. Being able to browse for the sounds you are wanting, rather than having to sample a million sounds with crazy names for hours.
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syrath
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/12 18:22:41
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ORIGINAL: Ognis
Sounds like SoundForge. The device chains. I've never used Kore, but the Kore browser in their synths is awsome. Being able to browse for the sounds you are wanting, rather than having to sample a million sounds with crazy names for hours.
Which is exactly what Project5 does with device chains. You set up the synth along with any arpeggiator settings, any midi FX, any soft synth and its settings, any effect and its settings. Then instant recall them all by choosing it. You can scrub all the settings that are there already and start building your own database if you like, saving as you go along. This includes for instance setting up Battery as a multi output synth. Then having all the settings saved on all the outputs. So you could recall in the one patch, all the compressor settings you set on the drums, which compressor it was, your own EQ, multiband, whatever. So if you used all say 10 outputs , you could save all those 10 outputs as a device chain with all the FX intact on all the outputs. Call up one setting and you have them all back again in another track. I believe Cubase 4 has incorporated this feature also. Weve had it a couple of years now.
post edited by syrath - 2007/02/12 18:45:36
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ecamburn
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/12 18:45:52
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Just as Stuart describes, I've found device chains to be a huge timesaver with with drum synths where I use multiple outs on a regular basis. Set em up once and you're done.
eric
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fabadder
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/13 07:25:12
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Hi Eric-
Your music sounds fantastic!!!! I could listen all day and night.
Jim
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RE: Does P5 do what Kore does?
2007/02/13 12:39:35
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it's been ages since i used p5, but in my experience p5 doesn't have that krashalicious action that kore does.
kore is mostly a hardware interface though. plus it organizes presets in the ni family for you. that seems, to me, to be the main advantage.
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