Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected??

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2015/09/25 23:07:18 (permalink)

Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected??

Hi everyone - this has been bugging me for a while...
In the Midi Channel Strip, if you have the Channel set to 'None', does Sonar by default send on Midi Channel 1??
 
I ask this because my Soft Synths only respond if they are set up to receive on Midi Channel 1 in their own settings.
 
Hopefully someone kinda sorta knows what I mean!
 
Thanks in advance
Bob
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    Re: Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected?? 2015/09/26 00:07:53 (permalink)
    Just curious - which soft synths are only accepting midi channel 1?  I don't think I have encountered that in many many many years.
     
    And, to the best of my knowledge, yes you should get midi channel 1 - check Event List after recording.
     
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    Re: Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected?? 2015/09/26 02:04:34 (permalink)
    Midi channel 'NONE' will always to midi ch 1. If you're using a multi-timbral VST (Sampletank,UVI), you must set your midi channel on the DAW correspond to the midi channel on the VST channel you wanted.

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    Re: Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected?? 2015/09/26 02:23:45 (permalink)
    The track's channel setting is to force events to be sent with channel information that may be different than what is encoded in the events themselves; 'none' just means the encoded channel won't be changed, whatever it is.
     
    If you record MIDI from a keyboard it's likely that keyboard is sending on channel 1 by default so that's what channel the events have. If you enter them in the PRV or Staff View, they'll also default to channel 1 unless you go out of your way to change it.
     
    The vast majority of non-multi-timbral synths will respond to events on any channel unless you deliberately set a specific channel in the synth's settings. Multitimbral synths generally have one instrument 'slot' for each MIDI channel, and whatever instrument is loaded into that 'slot' responds to that channel. 
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    Re: Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected?? 2015/09/26 02:28:34 (permalink)
    Wise people have different opinion, so may be they or you mean something else. Sorry then.
     
    In the MIDI Track Inspector, where there are "C","B","P", "MIDI Channel = None" means no conversion. Each event is sent to the output (VST) as it is defined (each Note has its only MIDI channel information and that information is respected), good for multitimbral track.
     
    When some specific channel is set there, MIDI channel information is not respected and all events are sent on specified channel.

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    Re: Does SONAR assume MIDI Channel 1 when 'NONE' is selected?? 2015/09/26 23:50:11 (permalink)
    Thank you all for your comments and help. Much appreciated.
     
    Kind regards
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