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2013/10/12 10:02:31 (permalink)

Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-))

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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 10:14:31 (permalink)
You conclude that the birds do not have perfect pitch.
 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 11:59:39 (permalink)
It was abit cold outside this morning so it may have influenced their throats :-))
I`m not an ornithologist but maybe birds can have a bad day also :-))
Mike , I will test out your suggestion :-))
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 12:01:29 (permalink)
yeah, I'm not sure that nature is tuned to 440. 

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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 14:22:02 (permalink)
Hummingbirds are the punk rockers of the avian world.  They don't care about socialistic activities or pretty singing and, since I still have dozens upon dozens of them in my backyard, it can get pretty noisy with lots of fighting.  But they all seem happy.
 
I think a group of them should be called a Clash.  I believe I heard one say to get the flock out of here too.  Yep.  Punk rockers.

 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 14:41:42 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I just put more food out there for the birds. As for music, I hardly think they give a damn about your theory and ideas! Just saying' ...

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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 16:03:45 (permalink)
I don't know if they're in tune but they annoy the heck out of me. I'm not sure exactly what kind of birds they are but they seem to particularly love my neighbours pine trees. They have an amazingly diverse vocabulary and they're LOUD. 
 
When we moved here, I remember hearing one of them starting to sing at around 1 or 2 am every night. Took me a while to compute that this wasn't morning and that this fellow was indeed a few hours early or on a night schedule. After 40 years of birds singing at dawn, your brain makes certain assumptions...
 
Anyway, they're loud and loud and loud.
Give me bats over that anytime.
post edited by Rain - 2013/10/12 16:05:03

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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/12 21:40:52 (permalink)
I have several Tuis in the garden and they sound like R2D2

 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 04:57:43 (permalink)
You mean R2D2 sounds like several Tuis...
 
There is no such thing as "Perfect Pitch" in nature since its measurement was created by man for the soul purpose of establishing a standard for which to compare other notes to. From the lowest to the highest, there is no end in reality. Any note is a note by which other notes can be joined to create noise both harsh and melodic. As long as they are all in harmony then what does it matter what pitch they are.
 
I for one could never tell you what note you are playing. I can't read music, which is another form of measurement created by man so he can keep easier track of his compositions.
 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 06:53:21 (permalink)
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I had some free time today :-)) Creative and scientific use of Melodyne Editor :-))
http://youtu.be/uSZIbfbSkBY


Very creative use of the tools!
 
I have to admit that after hearing the modified version, I felt more relaxed. Which now makes me wonder if the birds are doing this on purpose, just to mess with us?!?!
 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 09:02:51 (permalink)
Yes, but there timing seems to be a bit off.

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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 10:22:42 (permalink)
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 10:23:47 (permalink)
I love this thread.  It would blow my mind if there was a natural pitch scale!  
 
I did have a problem with a mocking bird that loved to sing at 3 A.M. in the morning across the street from my 2n story apartment.  I really wanted to get him with a BB gun but in L.A., I would be arrested on the spot if a neighbor saw be with the rifle aiming across the street.  So the bird had its way and I was mad until I moved.  
 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 23:22:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jps 2013/10/14 06:33:59
Equal tempered birds, whoever heard of it?
 
Why conform to a set scale when your listeners are accustomed to the full frequency spectrum and can get what you are saying without such constraints on your vocabulary such as set tonal values.
 
Birds can harmonize with and mimic other sounds they don't need no steenking Melodyne.
 
I have the most humble of Starlings that lives on next doors' roof, he can mimic a dozen or so different types of birds at least so as you cant tell the difference between him and the original subject he's copying.  So he can certainly accurately pitch himself exactly where he wants if he is so inclined.
 
I think the only reason that birds don't win many grammy's is because they have more of a jazz sensibility and have a different agenda than pleasing the masses.  Besides if you can sing well enough to pull another bird then what else is there to be done?
 

 
More interesting would be to use Melodyne to learn to derive the scales the birds are using, the way round you've got it is like saying birds don't fly as good as planes and they could use a little tuning in that area because we've been flying for over 100 years now so we're the experts...
 
 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/13 23:45:27 (permalink)
I bet when Steve goes out to have a few jars with some birds that he doesn't care what pitch they sing at.

 
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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/14 00:51:16 (permalink)
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I bet when Steve goes out to have a few jars with some birds that he doesn't care what pitch they sing at.




Some of the birds round here have a tendency toward motorboating.

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Re: Does your backyard birds sing in perfect pitch :-)) 2013/10/15 00:24:52 (permalink)
After a few jars, it's all music to my ears...
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