Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet

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2010/08/16 14:47:33 (permalink)

Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet

There is a major bug that they have not released a patch for yet. If you want to record an overdub on a second track over a first, the unit will ignore your markers and always return to 0. So, each time you want to record an overdub on a second track, you have to manually forward the position to the location of the start of the overdub.

It makes the unit completely unusable to me. I have word back from CW that it is a known bug and they are working on a patch, but they have no idea when the patch will come out. So, I spent $500 US on a device that is sitting on the shelf--a waste of money.

I like CW and I like the unit, but you need to be aware of this bug because for my application (singing over the instrumental parts) it would have kept me from buying it if I had known ahead of time--and this is after asking them if my application would work and they said yes! I have been waiting for months for the patch.

Buyer Beware!


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    Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/08/17 19:22:09 (permalink)
    Couldn't you just use your mouse to put the Now Time at whatever time you want to start recording?
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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/08/23 21:05:39 (permalink)
    Probably, but should you have to? It kind of negates the purpose of markers....
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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/08/25 06:13:29 (permalink)
    He's actually talking about using the unit as a standalone recorder. My mistake in my previous post.
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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/09/09 22:00:00 (permalink)
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    He's actually talking about using the unit as a standalone recorder. My mistake in my previous post.
     
    Right. Stand along mode. I have Sonar 8 PE for my DAW. I bought this unit for field recording. If I want to get out of the house and record my vocals, I just want to dump my instrumental track from Sonar onto the unit, then drive anywhere to record the vocals. If you have multiple markers, like verse, chorus bridge, etc. if it's 4 or five minutes into the track that you want to record a vocal, if you don't like the first take and want to do another pass, you have to manually forward all the way from zero to where you think the vocal recording should start--EACH TIME.
     
    Talk about messing up the artistic flow. Anyway, there still is no word from CW on when a patch will come out so it still sits on my shelf.


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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/09/10 11:14:14 (permalink)
    It sounds like you need a handheld field recorder. There's a bunch of them that will do 24 bit audio even. In particular, the Roland R-05 records 24/96 and even has built in reverb for half the price of the VS-100.
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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/09/22 00:42:31 (permalink)
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    It sounds like you need a handheld field recorder. There's a bunch of them that will do 24 bit audio even. In particular, the Roland R-05 records 24/96 and even has built in reverb for half the price of the VS-100.
     
    Thanks, but after I already plunked down $500 that's not very helpful.


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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/09/23 16:59:21 (permalink)
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    It sounds like you need a handheld field recorder. There's a bunch of them that will do 24 bit audio even. In particular, the Roland R-05 records 24/96 and even has built in reverb for half the price of the VS-100.


    Thing is, the vs-100 is advertised as a do-everything recorder. When it was first announced they (Cakewalk) were adamant that this was a field recorder and a control surface and a decent mic-pre and a digital mixer with fx, all rolled into one.

    Let's hope they get this fixed.

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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/12/02 22:54:46 (permalink)
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    vierge99


    It sounds like you need a handheld field recorder. There's a bunch of them that will do 24 bit audio even. In particular, the Roland R-05 records 24/96 and even has built in reverb for half the price of the VS-100.


    Thing is, the vs-100 is advertised as a do-everything recorder. When it was first announced they (Cakewalk) were adamant that this was a field recorder and a control surface and a decent mic-pre and a digital mixer with fx, all rolled into one.

    Let's hope they get this fixed.

    Yup--that was the most money I've wasted at one time in my life... unit is still here--sitting in the case I bought for it...
     
    Sad thing is, if the unit is not a successful product to Cakewalk, they may never create a patch.

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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2010/12/03 11:19:53 (permalink)
    Hey Razor, sorry to hear that.

    Although couldn't you prepare tracks to overdub ahead of time, like trim them down to give you a 1 bar lead before you 'punch in' and then transfer them onto the V-Studio 100's SD card, then you wouldn't have to do deal with markers, and when you transfer the stuff back to your main system it shouldn't be too hard to sync?

    For over-dubbing you'd have a file for the chorus, a file verse 

    Kind of annoying yes, but you wouldn't have to deal with markers and you could be back to focusing on your music and less on frustration?



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    Re:Don't Buy the VS-100! --Yet 2011/07/19 10:47:54 (permalink)
    The object of overdub with this unit was for remote recording. Moving the tracks back and forth between my DAW and the unit just won't work.

    I've heard from SONAR after I contact them (not the other way around) and was told basically, that until Roland thinks it's important, they are not going to fix the bug. So, I'm off to sell the unit I only used three times one eBay -- for a loss of course.

    I've used CW since the 80s and this is the first screw up they've made and not fixed AND, it really boils down to Roland. I won't be buying any CW hardware in the future. I'll stick with the CW software that made me a fan in the first place.

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