Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2.

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2012/10/20 22:03:15 (permalink)

Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2.

So I clicked update in the UAD utility software and it said that a new verison 6.3.1 was available. I had been running 6.3.0. After installing the latest version none of the UAD plugins worked in Sonar X1. I went to the UAD site and sure enough, it's a known issue and they are recommending that Sonar users stay on 6.3.0. It says they are working on the problem.
 
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post edited by Middleman - 2012/10/20 22:20:11

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/20 22:07:31 (permalink)
    Well, thanks!

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/20 23:36:56 (permalink)
    Thanks for the heads up Middleman.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 11:31:01 (permalink)
    sticky!

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 18:13:09 (permalink)
    Thanks for the warning.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 19:05:29 (permalink)
    I was not planning on updating UAD until they are 64bit.

    The stuff I do not own I'm in no hurry to get and all is working for me (I may even be below 6.3).

    Thanks for posting this though. You made it a no brainer.
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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 19:06:52 (permalink)
    I'm on 6.3.1 in X1 and it's working fine for me. I should also add that I'm on XP and that I haven't updated my UAD plugins in about 1000 years.  I just recently replaced my old UAD1 cards with a Quad so I had to update the software. The only thing I don't like about it is the warning it now gives if there are non-UAD plugins along side a UAD plugin of any kind. Annoying.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 21:54:37 (permalink)
    wmb, are you running x64 or x32? I am in x64 and the Sonar compatability check box is not available in 6.3.1 and the plugins won't operate although they do show up on the screen, the gain reduction needles odn't move on the fairchild.

    So it may be either X1 x64 or the fact that I am running Win7x64 that is the compatability issue.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 22:30:55 (permalink)
    Yup...it's 64 bit or nothing for me as well.  Thanks for the heads up.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/21 22:49:55 (permalink)
    I'm only 32 bit on my machine running X1 and the UAD cards. I'm really glad 6.3.1 works in XP 32 bit because I only just realized that by upgrading to a UAD2 I have lost all the plugins that were apparently related to the Nigel amp sim. I used the TremModEcho plugin rather frequently for tempo based modulation. That sucks. If the whole freaking thing wasn't working I'd be SOL on some work I'm on. I have been putting off and putting off the install of the UAD2 since June because I had big projects on the table and didn't want to risk downtime. Luckily it seems to be working well enough.
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    wmb, are you running x64 or x32? I am in x64 and the Sonar compatability check box is not available in 6.3.1 and the plugins won't operate although they do show up on the screen, the gain reduction needles odn't move on the fairchild.

    So it may be either X1 x64 or the fact that I am running Win7x64 that is the compatability issue.



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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/22 01:59:24 (permalink)
    wmb

    ...I haven't updated my UAD plugins in about 1000 years.  I just recently ... had to update the software.
    Updating the software updates the plugins too.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/22 02:07:17 (permalink)
    wmb

    I only just realized that by upgrading to a UAD2 I have lost all the plugins that were apparently related to the Nigel amp sim. I used the TremModEcho plugin rather frequently for tempo based modulation. That sucks.
    I use the Nigel stuff too.  That's one reason why I didn't go for the upgrade exchange offer.  The other reason was that I could easily buy a UAD-2 card cheaper than the upgrade price anyway, and still hang on to my UAD-1e card.

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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/22 03:08:05 (permalink)
    I haven't bought a plugin in a long time so I didn't need to update. I had other reasons to move on including wanting to ditch my magma chassis among other things. I had three PCI cards and moving forward was worth more to me than hanging on to a bunch of aging hardware. In any case I've got what I've got now.Kev999


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    ...I haven't updated my UAD plugins in about 1000 years.  I just recently ... had to update the software.
    Updating the software updates the plugins too.



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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/22 08:22:10 (permalink)
    I'm with Kev999 and have retained a UAD-1 to run alongside a UAD-2 (just for Nigel which really is usefull).  But its really crappy how UA sorta screwed their customer base that retained a UAD-1 in terms of software updates in that you cant install past 6.1 without losing UAD-1 functionality.

    I think thats really shoddy customer service.
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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/22 15:56:17 (permalink)
    It was more value to me to move forward than to hang on to the past. I never really expected as much life as I got from the cards. My first one was a Mackie version of the UAD1 before they started doing their own thing. 

    About them screwing their customers... the power supply for my Brent Averill lunchbox just went toes up after 6 or 7 years and it's gonna cost me $250 to replace it. The old one is pretty much useless.  I got more life from my first UAD card than from that power supply and I could trade it in when I was finished with it. Just another perspective. They are tools and tools eventually become outdated or worn out. I see no point in them holding on to the UAD1 line but I don't know why they dropped the Nigel and associated plugins. I didn't use the ampsim much but I did use the mod and DDL stuff from time to time.
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    I'm with Kev999 and have retained a UAD-1 to run alongside a UAD-2 (just for Nigel which really is usefull).  But its really crappy how UA sorta screwed their customer base that retained a UAD-1 in terms of software updates in that you cant install past 6.1 without losing UAD-1 functionality.

    I think thats really shoddy customer service.




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    Re:Don't Install UAD 6.3.1 Software with Sonar X1 possibly X2. 2012/10/22 18:36:30 (permalink)
    I am in x64 and the Sonar compatability check box is not available in 6.3.1



    I think UA just finally ditched the Sonar Compatibility option, as it was a hold over from the UAD-1 days. UAD-2 users never needed to use that option as it only related to specific UAD-1 CPU munching issues. I have been using v6.3.1 since the day it was released without any issues, but then I am on WinXP (SP3) and only use the UAD 32bit versions. Once UA finally releases the 64bit compatible UAD plug-ins is the day I make the move to a 64bit OS.
    On the face of it, this appears to be a bitbridge related issue. With UA being on the verge of releasing the 64bit plug-ins, UA may recommend staying on v6.3 or rolling back to it, if you have already updated. IOW, I don't think they are going to waste resources trying to fix a v6.3.1 that will soon be out dated anyway.


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