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2012/11/06 11:37:45 (permalink)

Don't Take My Dreams Away- NEW MIX - 11/21

This is the latest song I've written and recorded in X2.  I started this about 3 weeks ago, and after mixing for the last 3 days, I've reached a point where I'm ready to turn it over to all of you for your input and advice.  Except for Superior Drummer, it's all in the X2 box.  At this point, I've concluded that X2 is the best mixing platform I've used, so far.  However, this mix is very open, and I look forward to hearing from you all.  Thanks in advance for taking the time, and the best to you.

11/21/12:
Thanks to all of you who've participated in this production.  I've incorporated several of your suggestions in this remix, including marimba and compression issues.  I'm not sure this song is complete, yet, as there may be a big surprise in the future, but this is the next step in its evolution.  I look forward to your thoughts and help.

Don't Take My Dreams Away can be found here: http://www.soundclick.com...ngid=12009916&q=hi
post edited by Lynn - 2012/11/21 13:02:45

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 12:48:59 (permalink)
    I think the mix sounds fantastic.  Very open - you can distinguish all the instruments.  Somewhat a function of the arrangement, but like a pantry - a place for everything.  That is hard to do considering how you stack it at the end.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 15:46:59 (permalink)
    Really nice Lynn; very catchy.  Listening on a laptop at work, but even from here, I can tell this is really open and well mixed.  Has that Walch feel again, which I really like.  Wonderful bass lines.  Also like the way you have layered the vocals with effects.  I think this is my favorite of yours so far.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 16:56:25 (permalink)
    sounds good.. well done.. I liked of the song


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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 18:48:12 (permalink)
    Interesting that you would choose that xylaphone plug with this tune. The tune has more of a retro feel to it. I like it, but that sound (to me) is distracting from the vibe. The modulation on the bridge is pretty cool :-) And the hard pan on the guitars would be easier on monitors, on my buds it's always weird (hard pan) who's doing the high vocals? They sound great!

    It just finished, it's a cool tune? It's quirky and different, ahhhh reconsider that xylaphone! LOL!

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 19:02:29 (permalink)
    Wow Lynn. Great stuff. I was trying to find what to say about the vibes. I think Robby says what I was thinking.
    I've had the same issues with vibes and found it sometimes helps to double it up with something that masks the "vibe" sound. I just think the busy-ness of everything detracts from the main groove/song. 

    Also, something about the clarity and presence of the bass bothered me (just a little bit much maybe as there is already a lot going on). 

    It's pretty great stuff Lynn. I'm just picking it apart cause that's what you want:).

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 19:25:11 (permalink)
    Oooh, this is a cool piece! Sounds like the use of stereo panning that really pushes the audibility of each instrument... Sounds aweomse, very unique, but perfectly fitting for this song!
    I think the only thing that got to me was the lack of a sub-bass-ish sound.
    On another leaf, I love the lyrics, vocals and harmony, though. Really nice!

     
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/06 22:32:31 (permalink)
    Outstanding song Lynn. Well done.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 00:17:38 (permalink)
    Great tune.  I like the xylophone.  

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 07:14:21 (permalink)
    good stuff, Lynn.  personally I'm not fond of the overprocessed vocals, but that's personal taste.  love the BGV's at the end. 

    xylophone?  hmm.  ok, I guess.  something different!  the mix sits well - everything is well balanced and well placed, but highly compressed.  great job overall - the stuff I mentioned is all personal taste.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 11:20:17 (permalink)
    Thanks to all of you for having a listen and taking the time to reply.

    AT-Thanks for you kind words.

    Mike-I appreciate it, my friend.

    Makke- Thanks again.

    Robby, Thanks for your time.  Actually, I'm using a marimba sample because it's not metallic, and I spent 2 years in Guatemala where the marimba is the national instument.  That's me doing all vocals and instruments.

    Tim- I agree that there is a lot going on, and I'll be taking that into account when I revisit this mix.  When I dropped the marimba into the mix, I had in the back of my mind a Steely Dan song that used that sound which I really like.  As for the bass, your comments are exactly what I'm looking for, and I will deal with that.  You have golden ears.

    David- Thanks for your kind words about the vocals and lyrics.  I often get more excited about writing decent lyrics than anything else.  As for the sub bass, I don't have a sub woofer to monitor those frequencies, so I don't deal with them.  I'm just happy to get in the ball park let you guys report to me what I'm missing.  Eventually, I'll have to get a sub woofer, obviously.

    Shad- Thank you so much and nice to hear from you.

    Old55- I'm so happy you appreciate the "vibe" ;)

    Beagle- Thank you for you time.  The lead and harmony vocal are unprocessed and just slightly compressed.  The BG vocals are going through Breverb, but at a low setting.  The guitars, which I played through TH2 are heavily compressed, as is the bass.  The drums are going through a limiter in ProChannel, but only to limit the peaks.  My objective was to have some texture in the vocal tracks.  In the next pass, I'll be thinking about giving the mix some breathing room.



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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 11:24:57 (permalink)
    Good stuff Lynn - great groove going on. LOVE the backing vocals
    I really like the Xylophone/Marimba thingy but it takes up a lot of space - maybe an aggressive hpf? I agree with Beagle on the mix needing a bit of breathing room.
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 17:36:42 (permalink)
    At least of all the synth packages I have, I find the general midi vibraphone to be the best one I have.

    Love the organ, what patch is that?  Vocals are killer, this is all pretty cool.  It seems like your stretching out on this one.

    What is the bass?

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 20:11:14 (permalink)
    Lynn this has a great groove to it. Your voice works really well with this song. This is an excellent song. Judging from all the other songs I have heard from you I would expect nothing less. Love the bass!

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/07 21:14:51 (permalink)
    Daryl1968, thank you!  The marimba will go under the microscope the next time around.  And, I share your views on the breathing room.  Good call.

    Darylcrowley, I just love tuned percussion instruments.  Their frequency response often finds a niche in a lot of songs.  The organ is organ 2 from Rapture, and the bass is a Fender Prophesy bass into a Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster.  Thanks for your kind words.

    Marcus, thank you very much!  Likewise.



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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 10:46:44 (permalink)
    I love the Marimba in this... I love the overall production too...  this is a great song and arrangement... My favorite from you so far... you might try scooping out some of the mids from the bass... that might help the overall mix... I love it as is though...
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 11:39:30 (permalink)
    Only listening on lappy, but this still sounds great. Love the vox and use of panning here... going back for another listen.
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 12:46:47 (permalink)
    Frank, I love your latest song.  Thanks for your time and suggestion, which I think is a good one.  I intend to scoop a few frequencies here and there on the next pass.  Good call.

    paulo, what can I say?  It's always great to hear from you.  I appreciate your time and comments.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 14:16:14 (permalink)
    This come across quite well for me.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 15:47:12 (permalink)
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    Beagle- Thank you for you time.  The lead and harmony vocal are unprocessed and just slightly compressed.  The BG vocals are going through Breverb, but at a low setting.  The guitars, which I played through TH2 are heavily compressed, as is the bass.  The drums are going through a limiter in ProChannel, but only to limit the peaks.  My objective was to have some texture in the vocal tracks.  In the next pass, I'll be thinking about giving the mix some breathing room.
    on the vocals:  I'm guessing you "doubled" them or cloned them or something, tho?  I consider that "processing" as well.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 17:12:09 (permalink)
    Wookie, thanks for the compliment and your time.  Always appreciated.

    Beagle, I misinformed you a little about the vocals.  On the verses and choruses the lead and harmony are dry, but lightly compressed the the PC2A comp.  However, on the bridge before the last verse I doubled the lead and harmony by recording them and not with f/x.  BUT, I did process them with the Sonitus EQ's telephone setting for a little change of pace.  You have very good ears, and I appreciate your participation. 

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/08 18:57:45 (permalink)
     I loved this mix Lynn. I think you get better with each one. Specially liked the vocals and the groove of the tune. Mixwise the tune stands out very well as someone else has said everyting is in its place here.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/09 09:05:43 (permalink)
    This is very good Lynn; The tune, the lyric, the vocal, the mix, every thing about it is good. Great work Lynn. The Hook is right on the money!!!
     
     
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/09 11:27:46 (permalink)
    Starise, thanks for your kind comments.  I love your avatar.

    Terry, it's good to hear from you.  Thank you very much.  When will we be hearing your next tune?  Soon, I hope.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/09 13:16:41 (permalink)
    A little Zappa there - love the organ and the guitar-play and of cause the filtered voices. If I had to nag anything maybe its a little hush on the compression - lighten up a tiny bit.
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/09 18:05:32 (permalink)
    eko, welcome to the forum.  Thanks for having a listen and replying.  I was fortunate to see Zappa in '72 in KC, so there is a little bit of him in my s.p.i.c.e rack.  The compression will be addressed on the next pass.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/13 19:57:30 (permalink)
    hi lynn love your mixes there is a lot going on however its all under control everything fits well together thanks eric
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/14 11:25:42 (permalink)
    Eric, thank you very much.  It's good to hear from you.

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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/14 11:57:50 (permalink)
    Like the song Lynn, great groove and feel. If I was mixing this (everyone's a producer, right?)I might start the first verse pretty sparse, with the marimba. That way it would be 'introduced' before the heavier guitars come in around it. Just a thought.

     
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    Re:Don't Take My Dreams Away 2012/11/14 13:17:38 (permalink)
    James, that's an interesting idea!  You just gave me something to do this afternoon.  Thanks for sharing.

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