chops2010
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Dose anyone use i7
Hi At the moment my PC has a pentium 4 Chip and its doing my head in as , i have one instance of session drummer, Z3ta, two instances of rob papen Predator , one instance of Cakewalk Pentagon and one instance of Rob papen Blue running and over a 4 beat bar my CPU useage is clocking up to 70 - 80 % useage . I have just been told it would cost roughly £500 to upgrade to i7 with add ons such as power supply etc Can anyone verify if i7 is worth the upgrade ???? and roughly how many plugins /synths can you be running at once without having to bounce to audio????? Thanks, Chris
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Kev999
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/16 07:34:23
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chops2010 ...roughly how many plugins /synths can you be running at once without having to bounce to audio????? I can't put a figure on it, but I seem to be able to run dozens of synths and effects (so many that I lose track), including some taxing ones (e.g. Aether, Z3ta), without the CPU meter ever hitting 20%.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/16 07:43:55
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When you have an i7 you don't bother trying to count how many instances of stuff you're running. You just keep loading stuff and it works.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/16 09:09:58
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Yes it is. Remember to add memory too. The difference is astounding. Another astounding difference is one or two solid state drives. John
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/16 09:16:32
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I don't have an i7, I have an i5, which is still a very significant upgrade from a P4 anything. go for it.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/16 09:21:25
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I upgraded from Pentium 3 (I think it was) to i7 and it was night and day. I've never even passed 40% CPU activity whilst having a selection of soft synths open.
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Cactus Music
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/16 11:10:18
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Still, you get what you pay for- Don't just think clock speed makes for a great computer, There is a lot of other equally important components. The MOBO, The quality, speed and size of the RAM, Hard drive speed, Power supply, noise level of cooling system, Go and post some questions in the Hardware or Computer forum here, Answers might be slow in coming but it's worth a bit more of your time to look into this. An i3 with better quality build can possibly outperform a cheepo i7. Last time I was shopping I settled on a i5 with better components, The i7 with high quality components was going to be out of reach for me.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/18 06:04:16
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I have an i7 DAW. Just looking at my current project I have: - 27 audio tracks (20 with in-line Eq enabled) - 10 midi tracks - 18 sends - 8 busses - 26 effects plugins across all busses and tracks - 8 soft synths (SD3, DimPro * 3, Truepianos, ProteusVX and Dropzone * 2) - ASIO latency 4.0ms - maximum total CPU usage on the project 18% How I ever managed on a P4, I don't know :-)
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/18 11:43:37
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I have just been told it would cost roughly £500 to upgrade to i7 with add ons such as power supply etc You'd better research that a little better, because you'll also have to upgrade your memory to DDR3 and to really take advantage of the i7, you need to go to 64-bit Windows 7 so you can use more than 3GB of memory. You should also upgrade your video.
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Kev999
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/18 21:03:16
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daveny5 ...and to really take advantage of the i7, you need to go to 64-bit Windows 7... Not strictly essential. An i7 system is very fast, even with a 32-bit o/s. I'm still using XP and I'm not complaining.
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daveny5
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/18 21:56:36
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Not strictly essential. An i7 system is very fast, even with a 32-bit o/s. I'm still using XP and I'm not complaining. Well, it will certainly be better than running it on a Pentium 4, but you'll be missing out because Windows 7 is by far the best version of Windows ever and the 64-bit version which can access over 3GB is great.
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Kev999
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/18 22:21:16
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While I was building my current PC a few months ago, I had planned to soon upgrade to 64-bit W7. I even have an empty partition reserved for W7 and 6GB of RAM installed. But once it was up and running with XP and I saw how fast it was, I decided to stick with this and didn't bother to upgrade.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/18 23:38:24
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I'm running i7..specs in sig ran test the other day 100 audio tracks 5 sonitus effects on each channel so 100 tracks 500 effects 67% cpu usage. also had 25 instances of massive (heavy patches) on another test high 60's cpu usage
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/19 13:34:05
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I decided to stick with this and didn't bother to upgrade. Whatever. You don't know what you're missing. I went from XP to Windows 7 (skipped Vista) and never looked back. Besides the many functional improvements like jump lists, with Windows 7 64-bit you can access over 3GB of memory and you can't do that with XP.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/19 15:14:33
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after running windows 7 64 on an i7 I can't believe I ever got anything done on my p4 xp machine.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/20 00:08:15
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chops2010 Hi At the moment my PC has a pentium 4 Chip and its doing my head in as , i have one instance of session drummer, Z3ta, two instances of rob papen Predator , one instance of Cakewalk Pentagon and one instance of Rob papen Blue running and over a 4 beat bar my CPU useage is clocking up to 70 - 80 % useage . I have just been told it would cost roughly £500 to upgrade to i7 with add ons such as power supply etc Can anyone verify if i7 is worth the upgrade ???? and roughly how many plugins /synths can you be running at once without having to bounce to audio????? Thanks, Chris If your budget allows, buy a completely new machine. Adding an i7 to a old mobo (if it's even compatible) has limitations.
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Cactus Music
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/20 00:26:11
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The OP never returned, So the question is, are we now talking to ourselves or each other?
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Kev999
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/20 02:18:41
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Adding an i7 to a old mobo (if it's even compatible) has limitations. An i7 CPU requires a dedicated motherboard. Hopefully this has already been taken into account in the upgrade estimate.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/20 15:00:59
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I run a i7 with 16GB RAM on Win 64. I just love it. It just keep on going. I sometimes go over 100 midi tracks (I do a lot of orchestration). I can recommend it.
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Re:Dose anyone use i7
2011/06/20 20:12:52
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It really depends... I don't require the full headroom of power that 64-bit provides. I did take on W7 64-bit on an SSD Vertex II drive though, as I will need it soon with the libraries I'm getting, but so far running my spec (in signature), there's not a world of difference. I dual-boot to XP as that's where I run my email and office apps and install all my bloatware. W7 took away some crucial workflow aspects for me like custom toolbars (drag a folder to the edge of the screen and can fiddle around with it for brilliant instant access to commonly-used folders) also doesn't remember folder view settings. It runs very well, but I personally still work a little faster in XP... I actually agree that when you're running more intensive stuff you'll certainly notice that difference in power. But at the level I'm working and probably Kev999's also it would be unfair to invalidate his posts... :\ This becomes no different than a Mac/PC or sequencer-choice debate: If your machine's doing everything you want it to; you just don't need anything more... Unless like me, you don't need it, but just WANT MOAAAR!
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