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Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure, large study finds summary: Evidence already exists for the beneficial effects of drinking moderate amounts of alcohol on the risk of developing a number of heart conditions; however, the role it plays in the risk of developing heart failure has been under-researched with conflicting results. Now, a large study of nearly 15,000 men and women shows that drinking up to seven drinks a week in early to middle age is associated with a 20% lower risk of men developing heart failure in the future when compared to people who did not drink at all, and a more modest 16% reduced risk for women. http://www.sciencedaily.c...15/01/150120085927.htm I'll drink to that!
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/01/21 13:21:29
The problem is I get happy when I drink moderately...... .............then I drink some more to celebrate that happiness.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure It may also be linked to increased risk of alcoholism.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/01/21 11:45:38
The key word being "moderate".........and how everyone interpretates it.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
2015/01/21 13:03:01
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When I lived in Minnesota it was commonly referred to as antifreeze. Kept my toes warm.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
2015/01/21 13:10:08
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Until the next study which concludes the polar opposite...
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
2015/01/21 13:15:41
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sharke Until the next study which concludes the polar opposite...
Just like that egg/cholesterol fiasco they had sometime back??? Pfffft scientists...... Regarding moderation, my dad (RIP) had a saying for this: "too much of anything is good for nothing".
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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So are exercise and a healthy diet and lifestyle, and not just marginally. It's funny how we tend to look for anything but the best solution and are so stuck on trying to find redeeming virtue to things which basically aren't healthy. Try and run a few miles after a glass of wine and try the same after a glass of water... That's the only study I need. I do drink alcohol. Because I like it.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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The French have known this for years sine wine is a regular part of their diet. France are often referred to as having one of the lowest rates of heart disease..... What's often NOT mentioned is that they also have one of the highest rates of liver disease. Go figure.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
2015/01/22 14:08:26
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Well, "moderate" drinking is pretty vague, but "up to seven drinks a week" (each drink containing 14 g. of EtOh) is pretty specific. Heart failure, on the other hand is a very broad endpoint (like death), representing dozens of different primary diagnoses/causes, so it is not clear what exactly is being prevented. And the study also points out a well established relationship to death from all causes. The interesting thing to me is that the increased death risk for >21 drinks per week was 47% for men but 89% for women. So does that mean women are more vulnerable to the effects of alcohol or just that over the lifespan period studied men are more likely to die of other causes, making the effect of alcohol more obvious in women? I would consider going to the journal to see how much granularity there is in the reported data, but I think I will have a gin & tonic instead.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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The primary reason we have a problem with chronic cardiovascular disease is our diet. The right food (80% vegetables, no sugar, no artificial fats [unfortunately]) is the answer. Corporate food products are the problem. The secondary reason is too much sitting, sitting, and more sitting. I like to stand when i work on Sonar, and when i sit, i sit on a drum stool. I think that's really all there is to it, IMHO.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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QuadCore The secondary reason is too much sitting, sitting, and more sitting. I like to stand when i work on Sonar, and when i sit, i sit on a drum stool. I think that's really all there is to it, IMHO.
I need to integrate one of these in my studio routine.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
2015/01/22 15:28:16
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"i ain't drunk, i'm just drinkin'"
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
2015/01/22 15:33:38
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Drinking even moderately is said to increase the risk to get cancer.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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Zappa said it best when he sang: The Dangerous Kitchen If it ain't one thing it's another...
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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QuadCore The primary reason we have a problem with chronic cardiovascular disease is our diet. The right food (80% vegetables, no sugar, no artificial fats [unfortunately]) is the answer. Corporate food products are the problem. The secondary reason is too much sitting, sitting, and more sitting. I like to stand when i work on Sonar, and when i sit, i sit on a drum stool. I think that's really all there is to it, IMHO.
I have a general rule of thumb which says "if it's advertised on TV, it's probably unhealthy." Not only that but way overpriced. Sometimes I'll go into someone's apartment and look in the kitchen cupboards and EVERYTHING is a big name TV brand. I was looking at someone's box of Kellogs cereal the other day and the price was almost $8. I can get the Whole Foods version of that cereal for half the price, organic mind you, and the ingredients are so much more healthy. As for sitting, well many years ago I got rid of my sofa and vowed to never own one again. I sit on office chairs, that sort of thing. My back is a zillion and five times healthier for it.
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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I Am sticking to my 6 pack of Abita Springs Amber beer and pizza! No more no less!
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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sharke I have a general rule of thumb which says "if it's advertised on TV, it's probably unhealthy." Not only that but way overpriced. Sometimes I'll go into someone's apartment and look in the kitchen cupboards and EVERYTHING is a big name TV brand. I was looking at someone's box of Kellogs cereal the other day and the price was almost $8. I can get the Whole Foods version of that cereal for half the price, organic mind you, and the ingredients are so much more healthy.
Ditto. In fact, I mostly buy stuff that's not packaged, processed and transformed. I hate buying meat from WF though. They screwed us for the last time a few days ago - we bought what we thought would be a delicious roast beef, because we wanted to cook a nice dinner for my mother-in-law who was in town. Plus, I hadn't eaten a roast beef in years. Cost us $27 for that piece of meat. I managed to chew off ONE tiny chunk. And I earned that tiny little bit, trust me. Dinner was a fiasco. We ended up throwing away the whole thing - though I really felt like driving to WF and literally throwing it at them, sauce and all. This was their second and last screw up on meat. Almost $30. Man, I can get an EZ Drummer expansion or a Waves plug-in for that price! :P
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Re: Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol is linked to reduced risk of heart failure
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sharke I have a general rule of thumb which says "if it's advertised on TV, it's probably unhealthy." Not only that but way overpriced. Sometimes I'll go into someone's apartment and look in the kitchen cupboards and EVERYTHING is a big name TV brand. I was looking at someone's box of Kellogs cereal the other day and the price was almost $8. I can get the Whole Foods version of that cereal for half the price, organic mind you, and the ingredients are so much more healthy.
Ditto. In fact, I mostly buy stuff that's not packaged, processed and transformed. I hate buying meat from WF though. They screwed us for the last time a few days ago - we bought what we thought would be a delicious roast beef, because we wanted to cook a nice dinner for my mother-in-law who was in town. Plus, I hadn't eaten a roast beef in years. Cost us $27 for that piece of meat. I managed to chew off ONE tiny chunk. And I earned that tiny little bit, trust me. Dinner was a fiasco. We ended up throwing away the whole thing - though I really felt like driving to WF and literally throwing it at them, sauce and all. This was their second and last screw up on meat. Almost $30. Man, I can get an EZ Drummer expansion or a Waves plug-in for that price! :P
WF can be very hit and miss. It's definitely the best supermarket by far, but not without its problems. I'm a big fan of microgreens but I've had to return 4 or 5 boxes that were rancid when opened. And my girlfriend has taken her fair share of yogurt back because it was out of date. A few years ago I was buying these "Greens+" protein bars and noticed one day that a bunch of them were a couple of months out of date. So I took them off the shelf and gave them to the customer service desk. The girl thanked me and said they would get rid of them. Later that day I went back and found that they'd just put them straight back on the shelf.
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