DropZone elem into Dimension?

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2007/11/02 00:49:02 (permalink)

DropZone elem into Dimension?

I have saved a DropZone Element and then tried to open it in Dimension (simply OOI), bu it seems to fail.

Should this work?

Thanks for any input.

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    OldNick
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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/02 09:43:42 (permalink)
    Let me put this another way.

    Can I alter the loops etc of a wav in Dropzone, then use the result elsewhere?


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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/02 16:20:29 (permalink)
    I might be wrong But I'd say no. If you'd like to really do loops and save the menta data that sets a loop in all synths that can read it__ and this is all sampler types__ SoundForge does have all the tools you'd need.

    Drop zone Is a cakewalk synth but AFAIK there is no cross compatability between DZ/Dpro/Rapture.

    All saved patches/elements are exclusive to the individual synth. There is one common element between them all and this is the SFZ format. Any SFZ can load into all of these synth. Drop Zone might be the exception but I speculate on this as I do not own it.

    I forgot that SFZ can specify the loop period start/end and length. But without a audio editor to do the loop points you'd be guessing at the best point to loop a file. SFZ uses samples as the reference/timeframe for loop points. But does not display a sample file with a timeline defined in samples.
    post edited by lawapa - 2007/11/02 16:36:57
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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/02 22:02:55 (permalink)
    I think you are right. I could not find a way to save the looped wav. Or as SFZ format etc..

    I actually have an older programme (Cool Edit) that does looping, but it's not as easy as DZ's simple drag and try. I also like DZ's crossfade capability. It was what was missing from Furtive's SF2, and makes looping much easier to sound good.

    Sound Forge? I'm not _that_ keen! <G> Mind you there is a $60 version..

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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/03 19:11:12 (permalink)
    The looping tools if you have a mind to learn them in SF are good. But looping is as close to a high art as it gets. CoolEdit should be as good but looping can be tricky buisness.

    If you set the perfect loop in CoolEdit set the time line to samples Note the loopstart/loopend points and its all you need to set the loop in SFZ. I'm not sure if SFZ reads the menta data from a saved looped file, Which would imply a looped file without the opcode loopstart/loopend defined used in SFZ would load and loop as set by the audio editor. I know a loaded wave files is read this way and it would seem to make sence that a looped file would load the same way used in a sfz format file.

    Keeping all the editing functions out of a synths gui keeps the footprint small and its resource grab small as well. If you don't believe this load up Kontakt or any other mega featured app. These behemonths strangle your track count unless your running a major setup. Try disk streaming while recording live tracks Major fun unless you network several comps.
    post edited by lawapa - 2007/11/03 23:08:34
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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/03 19:44:48 (permalink)
    I agree that looping is tough. I have played around with it a bit. You almost need to chose your start point then either create an envelooe to keep the level the same to the end point, or even do a sample by sample copy! <G> Trouble is even if the volume is OK the tone can change. That's why I liked DZ's crossfade.

    Do you know if SFZ supports crossfade or reverse looping?

    I have downloaded SF lite to try it out. Cool Edit has aged and is now owned by ...Corel?? and has _multiplied_ in price

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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/03 22:58:26 (permalink)
    Yes,yes,and yes
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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/03 23:19:11 (permalink)
    I'm glad we're in agreement then! <GG>
    ORIGINAL: lawapa

    Yes,yes,and yes

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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/03 23:26:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: OldNick

    Cool Edit has aged and is now owned by ...Corel?? and has _multiplied_ in price


    Adobe. It is now called Adobe Audition.
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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/03 23:33:05 (permalink)
    Ahah! Thanks. That was it.

    Pity it's not mud-brick pricing! <G>

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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/04 16:05:51 (permalink)
    CoolEdit is now Adobe Audition as TH said. Adobe's products are expensive but hey they also do much. I started with Sonic Foundry's SoundForge now Sony's product. I stick with what I know unless something I need pops up with a competitor. And even then I'm reluctant to switch because I'd have to learn the work flow all over a again.

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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/04 17:48:46 (permalink)
    I guess if I had it from whenever, and I was upgrading I might consider it. But it does almost _too_ much! <G> It's become almost a complete sequencer (got one) and audio workstation, more of a competitor to SONAR than an adjunct.

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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/05 20:44:57 (permalink)
    Just remember though, that what it does that Sonar can't do either at all or not as well. That the addition of extras does not diminish the tools you need to get the job done.

    Vegas can function as a audio studio but it's those Video tools I bought it for. These tools you can not beat for video. Sonar has tools for midi and softsynths plus much much more as well. Can't do without it when it comes to making music.
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    RE: DropZone elem into Dimension? 2007/11/05 21:37:14 (permalink)
    Just taking it slow. Too easy to spend money. I have hardware to buy to get up to speed for a start.
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