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Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
There are a few things mentioned in Sonar's Help documents about what causes dropouts but there are probably no end to them. Especially with my laptop, whenever I let it hibernate or sleep and then wake it up, some things don't work right. I usually have a lot more issues with Sonar and other programs than I do when shutting it down completely. Kind of like it doesn't fully wake up from it's sleepy state. (And feeding it morning coffee doesn't seem to help either.  ) I find a complete reboot solves a lot of little issues, especially with USB driven audio and MIDI. Windows seems to like mishandling USB whenever it gets the chance. Just a thought.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 10:35:27
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/02/09 10:51:12
Makes perfect sense. I never put my laptop to sleep or hibernate it.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 10:51:24
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Bristol_Jonesey Makes perfect sense. I never put my laptop to sleep or hibernate it.
This ^^^should eliminate those issues.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 10:55:41
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I thnk in sleep and hibernate modes there is a disconnection between Sonar and drivers etc also USB connections.
Some of these devices are only scanned at boot time. As others have suggested general practice for DAWS is to not use Sleep or Hibernate functions.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 11:02:49
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I recall reading somewhere that you should NEVER deploy hibernate/sleep mode on a DAW. It could have been a CW employee, or a DAW make (i.e. Scott or Jim).
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 12:31:54
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For me, I had my box set "Always On." Then quite a few times I would walk downstairs to do something with the intention of returning, only to get sidetracked and I wouldn't go back. This would leave my box on for days at a time sometimes. : ( So, I set it to go to sleep after an hour. But when I do go back to work, first thing I do is restart. I do it because I just don't trust that everything is back to "normal." That's just what I have started doing in the past year. YMMV HTH
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 14:13:24
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Sonar, and some other programs and devices, do not wake up well from sleep/hibernation, at times. I always set everything to high performance power management options, and do not have issues - I am on my computer for an average of 14 hours a day, so it is not particularly any issue for me to have it set that way anyway. When I DO leave the computer to do something, or sleep, I usually make sure I am out of Sonar, and if so, I then shut it down.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 14:39:30
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 16:50:12
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Somebody gave me a tip rather than set both min/max CPU power on 100 in Windows, to set it to 99 to avoid spikes and fan noise....
I'm trying that now.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 19:37:33
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I posted this in 2 different forums. This one got moved to here because they didn't know another one was already here. Maybe if I post one in every forum I can have them moved here.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/09 20:46:23
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soens I posted this in 2 different forums. This one got moved to here because they didn't know another one was already here. Maybe if I post one in every forum I can have them moved here.
Why? I would very much appreciate that you don't do this in future. I have now merged both the threads....
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/10 05:00:18
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Thank you.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/10 09:22:44
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My power profile is pretty much "always on", although I let the monitors turn off after an hour of inactivity. I only reboot once a week, preferring to put the computer to sleep instead. However, I make a point of never doing this with SONAR open. I've never wanted to test whether this is really necessary, but it just seems like a good idea. The biggest problem is USB ports being shut down and not coming back to life on wake-up. Fortunately, you can exempt USB ports from ever being powered off. Prior to Windows 8, that was an obscure setting done via the device manager. Windows 8 conveniently includes it in the advanced power settings. Maybe that's in Win7, too, I don't know because I've never used Win7 for audio.
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Re: Dropouts and Hibernation/Sleep Mode
2015/02/10 13:33:16
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The USB powering off setting still appears in device manager under Win8/8.1.
For some reason setting it to "off" in the power settings doesn't seem to alter the settings in the USB port properties in device manager which get left set to allowing Windows to sleep USB ports. I've found that unless both are set to prevent USB sleep it can still happen.
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