Drum Map / TTS - 1 Questions

When opening the TTS Tracks I have to assign the drums back to the Standard Set from the Soft Synth.

why? this is the part where you're loosing me on what you're doing. if you have a drum map with a special kit that you made from different kits available in TTS-1, then you should be assigning that MIDI track to that drum map and not to the TTS-1.

I'm sorry, J, it may be that it's late and I'm tired, but I'm still not following you.

the drum map should be pointing to different channels of the same instance of TTS-1. on the different channels, you should be assigning the different kits and assign the sounds from the kits you are wanting that sound to come from. then save that drum map as a name such as "TTS-1 mixed kits". then send the output of the MIDI track to the drum map labelled "TTS-1 mixed kits" and all of the drum notes in that MIDI track will be sent to different channels with different kits of the TTS-1.

when you say you "move them to the TTS" it is just not making sense to me because I don't understand what you're doing by "moving them to the TTS".

so, don't do it that way. do it the way I explained above - it only takes one instance of TTS-1 that way. you're just using 8 separate channels in the same TTS-1.

I will try to make a tutorial for you later today, but this morning I'm off to a choir retreat and don't have time to explain it all. I'll be back tonight and help you with it, tho.

Alright - let's see if I can explain this well enough.

I'm assuming you already have a MIDI track with drum notes in it, but other than that, start from scratch. delete all TTS-1's you have in the synth rack.

now, go to INSERT>SOFTSYNTH>TTS-1
when the window pops up, choose these options:



8 TTS-1 outputs will appear. if you need more than 8 outputs, then you'll need an additional TTS-1 for THOSE.



on your MIDI track with the DRUM notes, choose DRUM MAP MANAGER from your OUTPUT



the drum map manager window will pop up. click on NEW, then in the pull down window, choose GM DRUMS (Complete Kit)



for the sounds you want a different kit to make the sound, choose a different channel for each one.



for each channel you want a different kit to play, choose that kit from the pull down menu on that port/channel option





that will get your different kits playing for the different notes. now we need to ensure that the different channels will output to different outputs as you wanted (which actually is a separate thing from the drum map). At this point, you may want to type something into the PRESETS window which will be a good name for your drummap and press the little DISK beside the preset window to save it for future retrieval.

go to the TTS-1 properties page and press the SYSTEM button. a red window will appear.



Now press the options button on that new window. on the new window, change the output of the channels you set in the drum map to the following:


the lower channel will be output to the LEFT side of that output and the higher channel will be output to the RIGHT side.

Now just verify that your inputs to the TTS-1 outputs are set correctly




that should do it.

RobertB and Beagle consistently go out of their way to help in this forum. I'm constantly amazed the lengths they will go to to solve someone's problem.
You two are my five-star MC (and SHS) support system.

awe, shucks!

I just hope it works for him.

Ok, this helped a lot, but my first problem has still not been solved.

When I pull up the drum map manager - there are hundereds of kits to choose from.

I can select them and program with them, but they have very low volumes.

When I route the notes through the TTS outputs and set the Bank / Patch - I then have to select from the kits in the TTS (Standard, Room, Analog, etc...)

That is wherein the problem lies. I DO NOT WANT THOSE SOUNDS. I want the sounds from the kits in the manager.



Now, this has been very, very helpful in routing the output to the TTS channels. This allows me to assign each drum it's own channel for mixing. But I am still left with only being able to use the TTS sounds. I want the Manager sounds. Is this possible?

When I pull up the drum map manager - there are hundereds of kits to choose from.

but you can only use the ones you have access to. if you don't have a hardware or software synth with those kits, then you can't use the sounds. the maps are only there for you to use if you need them to map to your hardware/software synth.

I can select them and program with them, but they have very low volumes.

I really don't understand this statement. the drummap has nothing to do with volume unless you change the velocity from 100% to something lower.

When I route the notes through the TTS outputs and set the Bank / Patch - I then have to select from the kits in the TTS (Standard, Room, Analog, etc...)

That is wherein the problem lies. I DO NOT WANT THOSE SOUNDS. I want the sounds from the kits in the manager.

Again - if you don't have them you can't use them. those are only for mapping to hardware or software synths when you have them. those sounds are NOT included anywhere in MC.

But I am still left with only being able to use the TTS sounds. I want the Manager sounds. Is this possible?

NO. not without buying a hardware or software synth that has those sounds.

how do I get certain drums (I.E. Kick, Kick 2, Snare) to go to different channels of the TTS?

by following the tutorial I made above. set your Kick to go to channel 1, your kick 2 to channel 2, just like I put in the pictures above on the drum map.

I know how to make a different TTS for each one, but this bogs my system down.

I don't think you've tried to follow the steps I laid out above. I specifically went over that very thing. you do NOT need more than 1 TTS for at least 16 different sounds. In the drum map manager, you can set those sounds to the different channels. just go back to the tutorial above and look at the instructions and pictures where I tell you how to change the sounds to the different channels.

ORIGINAL: Beagle

When I pull up the drum map manager - there are hundereds of kits to choose from.

but you can only use the ones you have access to. if you don't have a hardware or software synth with those kits, then you can't use the sounds. the maps are only there for you to use if you need them to map to your hardware/software synth.

I can select them and program with them, but they have very low volumes.

I really don't understand this statement. the drummap has nothing to do with volume unless you change the velocity from 100% to something lower.

When I route the notes through the TTS outputs and set the Bank / Patch - I then have to select from the kits in the TTS (Standard, Room, Analog, etc...)

That is wherein the problem lies. I DO NOT WANT THOSE SOUNDS. I want the sounds from the kits in the manager.

Again - if you don't have them you can't use them. those are only for mapping to hardware or software synths when you have them. those sounds are NOT included anywhere in MC.

But I am still left with only being able to use the TTS sounds. I want the Manager sounds. Is this possible?

NO. not without buying a hardware or software synth that has those sounds.

how do I get certain drums (I.E. Kick, Kick 2, Snare) to go to different channels of the TTS?

by following the tutorial I made above. set your Kick to go to channel 1, your kick 2 to channel 2, just like I put in the pictures above on the drum map.

I know how to make a different TTS for each one, but this bogs my system down.

I don't think you've tried to follow the steps I laid out above. I specifically went over that very thing. you do NOT need more than 1 TTS for at least 16 different sounds. In the drum map manager, you can set those sounds to the different channels. just go back to the tutorial above and look at the instructions and pictures where I tell you how to change the sounds to the different channels.

Ok - that is what I needed cleared up.

Yes, I have followed the tutorial, I just have to go back and do it again and work everything out.

Scratch that - figured it out. We are in business. I have channels for every drum spread out over two TTS's. Hopefully this will do it. THANKS AGAIN!

Hey guys, things are running like greased toddlers at a cocaine party. Thanks for all the help.

Couple of questions though - Btw, I have been recording with various Cakewalk programs for about 5 years now, but never stepped outside of recording guitars and vocals for very lo-fi projects.

IF - I want better drums for the Manager, what do I have to do? What specifically do I have to buy?

AND - and recommendations on mics? I have been recording guitars for years with a $5 Nady vocal mic and it is time to step up. I keep hearing SM-57. Good idea?

AND - For vocals, I have had a Marshall MXL 990 (Beagle, saw this on your site, I have had mine for years until the other day), but it has decided to start cutting out very badly. especially with any lower frequencies (I play a lot of metal, any lower, growly type vocals cut out very bad). Any suggestions on a good vocal mic for these guttural vocals?

Thanks as always guys!

Awesome, I have already looked into the ToonTracks products, so I will definitely check them out. And I have had the SM-57 recommended for guitars, so that is two birds...

Thanks!