Drummer software,what do you use?

Wondering if anyone is a fan of session drummer that makes some or any rock and roll,indierock,punkrock,metal,pop punk,ect with that solid bug drum sound?I havent really been able or wanted to use it,I use superior drummer and cannot get the same results with any other(although i am sure its possible)I have bfdeco-terrible,ezdrummer-rather use superior drummer,addictive drummer-not that great,metal loops sound cheesy,session drummer sounds too weak(although I have not tried new kits.Native instruments studio drummer,also abbeys roads drummer are ok but most kitd sound similarish and the loops all sound the same.
The loops that came with sonar are not nearly extensive enough for someone who wants to make original drum tracks without repeating the same loop over and over or they are for dance,hip hop,ect.
Any chance sonar would make its content more rock-friendly?

And although the Andy John's kit for SD3 doesn't have a ton of kit pieces it sounds great for what it seems like you want to do. I like it far more than the included content. If you already have it please disregard.

check these kits out http://www.analoguedrums.com/products.php

Beepster


And although the Andy John's kit for SD3 doesn't have a ton of kit pieces it sounds great for what it seems like you want to do. I like it far more than the included content. If you already have it please disregard.

I don't have the Andy john one,I wasn't sure if it would be good,know anything about the new kits,there are like 5 for SD3.Does it come with midi loops?

SynisTar


check these kits out http://www.analoguedrums.com/products.php

i will,oh yea just cliocked on it I have heard of these but never heard any samples,Ill check em out thanks,do you use them?

@Stephen... If that was for me I appreciate the offer but I have to start an account with those guys anyway. I think BFD is going to be my savior in regards to recording drum tracks for my work as I can no longer physically accomplish what I need nor do I even have a kit anymore. I'm curious as to why you did not find it suitable for your purposes as they sound somewhat similar to mine. Just wondering of any issues I should be looking out for. Cheers and I hope you find what you need. And my usage would be for pretty much any style in need of a live drum sound. My initial goals are to capture material I already have written which varies from blues to metal to punk to jazz to country to traditional folk to kind of weirdo prog alterna rock stuff but I will definitely be expanding from there. As far as the Andy John's kit yes there did seem to be quite a few loops that came with it but I have not explored them as I'll be writing my own... even if they are similar to the included loops. I'm just funny that way where it has to come from my own mind and efforts for me to really call it my own. The sound of it is just extremely well record and well rounded. I could easily use it for all the genres I mentioned earlier although perhaps not to the full depth I would like. It is limited in the sense you just get a basic kit without much extra frilly dillies on it but it sounds like you have tons of stuff installed anyway to cover the gaps. I snagged it for twenty bucks but IMO I think it would be worth the $40. Check out the audio demos of it in the Cake store. It's just a solid sounding kit. You MAY want to check out Addictive Drums. They have some extremely cool stuff and that's what I was going to go for before finding out about BFD and would still like to snag a copy. Their forum and staff are extremely helpful too so check them out. Take care.

Ya really... it seems like you have tried everything else except Addictive. They have cool stuff and they have a lot of the neat effects and micing/room option like BFD but not so complicated. I wish I could afford both but I've had to make a choice and it is BFD. I'm actually pretty excited about it. It looks super cool.

I use OWD Silver (expandable) and I got some good drums sounds I like from picking up two extra drum sets. I imagine with the guys behind Ocean Way Studios that the samples are exceptional. YMMV ;-) http://www.oceanwaydrums.net/audio1.php

I use Sup Drummer 2.3. I have all the kits (sdx) including Evil Drums which is the only 3rd party kit available for it.

It's just so versatile there isn't anything I can't do.

I also get all the MIDI packs as I'm not a drummer and find that they help me get done what I need.

Years ago I got the nsKit7 (not the free version) but the full 70 GIGs of samples. They are still the best sampled drums in my mind but I've always had to rely on 3rd party drum maps for them to get anything done. I don't have the chops to get the best out of them so in the end I use Superior Drummer 2.3 as its a complete solution for me. I also have NI's Batttery 3 and all the Abbey Rioad stuff that came with KOMPLETE but in my mind the Toontrack guys are always working to get more stuff out that helps us non-drummers enormously.

BFD2 & Session Drummer here.


I rarely use Session Drummer - BFD ticks all my boxes


Andy, you can, if it really floats your boat, set up a BFD2 kit with 32 cymbals in it

Bristol_Jonesey

Andy, you can, if it really floats your boat, set up a BFD2 kit with 32 cymbals in it 

Yeah... I really must look into what it costs to get the full package. I just can't justify it at the moment as I am not being able to get one productive tune together at the moment, on account of learning so many things at once.


Next thing you know... X2 starts to surface, and I'm also thinking of moving up to Windows 8 at the same time.


I reckon it will be early 2013 before I start some proper composing.


sorry for the ramble...

synkrotron

Bristol_Jonesey

Andy, you can, if it really floats your boat, set up a BFD2 kit with 32 cymbals in it 

Yeah... I really must look into what it costs to get the full package. I just can't justify it at the moment as I am not being able to get one productive tune together at the moment, on account of learning so many things at once.


Next thing you know... X2 starts to surface, and I'm also thinking of moving up to Windows 8 at the same time.


I reckon it will be early 2013 before I start some proper composing.


sorry for the ramble...

It's always worthwhile checking every so often to see what deals are being done - the full BFD2 package was selling for £99 at one point last year

I use Steven Slate drums platinum V4 and BFD2. I also use the kits in FLStudio's FPC. The Big Mono kit samples have been adapted to FPC by a long time user and he uses the analog drums to great effect.

Unfortunately, you don't get the same range of articulations in Session Drummer that you do with most of the 3rd party Vsti's mentioned in this thread.

hmm... What's the difficulty in getting BFD to output to separate tracks, Chuck? That is definitely how I prefer to do things. Cheers.