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Just a reminder to anyone looking for something far superior (naff pun intended) than Session Drummer 3 , you have until the end of December to take advantage of the, just plain stoopid sale of BFD Eco for $29!!!
Almost a third of the price that EZdrummer is being sold for.
Get it here (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=103)
 
Steve

Yeah, I picked it up last year when it was going for $99, which seemed like a great deal at the time, so this is a fantastic deal. I just hope FXpansion releases a 64 bit update. It's definitely good and a no brainer for $29 USD. 

Hi Bobby
 
It's not called Eco for nothing :
 
Less velocity layers and a lower bit rate. I have both Eco and bfd 2 and to be honest, although the same kit does sound slightly different in both, it's not always a case of one sounding better than the other. I remember all the hooha about whether to record in 16bit or 24bit years ago and I'd say it's a fact (or as near as damn it) that almost no one can hear the difference.
Currently, BFD Eco is still not 64bit where as BFD 2 is.
I've had no problems running it in Sonar's bit-bridge but some others have.
 
Here's a comparison between Eco and BFD 2 for you. http://www.fxpansion.com/...p?page=103&tab=277#392 
 
Cheers
 
Steve

Well like I said "almost no one" and as the old saying goes,
"there's always one"

Have you taken the blind fold test to see whether or not you can give credence to such wild claims?

Steve

Just a thought, but it's the same price at Audiomidi who are offering the $15 for re-registering for the newsletter. Assuming you can apply the discount here, BFD eco for $14 is kind of nuts.

Gaffpro


There's a very close friend of mine who records in 16 bit in Logic & Pro Tools and states to me that he really can't hear a difference at the end of the day. I record in Sonar 24 bit because of the added headroom.....his track record includes being one of the engineers on Eric Clapton's Layla album

Was  that particular record of Eric's recorded in 16 or 24 bit ?

Hey there Craig. I just bought BFD ECO for 14.00 (29-15.00 coupon) from Audiomidi. That's a Steal. Thanks to all! Oh yeah..the $15.00 coupon is what you get for registering at there (apparently) new website. The coupon code is "am 15".

lightninrick


  I disagree about recording in 16 bit vs. 24 bit. The noise floor in 24 bit is noticeably lower. 16 bit sample libraries sound fine, but fo my own recordings, it's 24 bit all the way. lightninrick

I'm just stating what he told me.....

twaddle
Well like I said "almost no one" and as the old saying goes,
"there's always one"

Have you taken the blind fold test to see whether or not you can give credence to such wild claims?

Steve

In general, the difference between 24 bit and 16 bit is that at 16 bit resolution, lower-level recordings are noticeably noisier and less distinct.  24 bit gives you lots more headroom to work with--recordings made at a low level sound fine when more gain is applied.  With drum sounds, you'd probably notice the difference first in lower-velocity cymbal hits, which have lots of frequencies and ring for a while, so there's something to hear.  With loud kicks, snares, etc. you might indeed not notice the difference much or at all. 
 
In an interview in Sound on Sound, Demo Castillo, who mixes Madonna, Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, etc. said that he can hear the difference between 24 bit and 16 bit, but he can't hear the difference between 44.1 kHz and 96 kHz.   I typically record at 24 bit 44.1 kHZ, because I feel the same way.
 
However, if your music ever gets quiet, you will probably find that it sounds better recorded at 24 bits than at 16 bits.
 
Thanks, ightninrick