Dubstep Question???

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2010/10/12 18:57:32 (permalink)

Dubstep Question???

I am looking to see if anyone knows how to make the pulsating bass for Dubstep in Sonar? Can this be done with Dimension Pro? If so, can you please explain how to go about adding the modulation?

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    chilldanny
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 05:04:39 (permalink)
    LFO's mate.
    Assign an lfo to control the filter and sync the lfo to say 16ths
    8ths whatever sounds good to you.

    (this is just one way to acheive the effect)
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    Legion
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 13:43:24 (permalink)
    Yup LFO's and maybe play around with the ADSR a little as well just for fun. I'd probably go for z3ta+ rather than Dim Pro for dubstep bass.

    Here's a base [pun intened] to start from with z3ta+: Detuned Saw (use two oscilators, one a little sharp and one a little flat), 100% Bus, Sine LFO synced to the tempo you want routed via the matrix to control the filter cutoff.
    post edited by Legion - 2010/10/13 13:46:28

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    ba_midi
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 15:16:36 (permalink)
    There are SO many ways to do it... some already mentioned.
     
    Others:   Side-Chaining using a gate key signaled (like a kick trigger)
                    Plugins that do it for you (FX plugins with sequencers like Effectrix for example).
                    Side-Chaining using a compressor with a key signal that is tempo-based (a kick for example)
                    Using a plugins built-in modulation functions
     
    The list goes on...
     
    Using the LFO's is probably the easiest and most direct method - especially if you're new to some of these techniques.  And it's usually easy to setup within many plugins.
     
     

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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 16:27:11 (permalink)
    Excuse my ignorance.  What the heck is "dubstep" and can you site an example of its use?  If I don't ask the questions, I will remain ignorant.  Stupid would be not asking the question.

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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 16:56:19 (permalink)
    Dubstep is a club genre that's pretty popular in Europe. Here's an example: Benga and Skream - Walkin Bass  and a less othodox one: Burial - Archangel
    post edited by Legion - 2010/10/13 17:05:36

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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 17:13:30 (permalink)
    Great, thanks!  Won't be using it any time soon but great to know if it comes up Yo.

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    Legion
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 17:31:22 (permalink)
    LOL If you run out of ideas for a new tune sometime it can be great to just try to emulate somthing you normally wouldn't come close to. Or just because it's fun to widen the horizon.

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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 17:57:39 (permalink)
    Legion


    LOL If you run out of ideas for a new tune sometime it can be great to just try to emulate somthing you normally wouldn't come close to. Or just because it's fun to widen the horizon.

    I live in Saskatchewan with one of the broadest horizons in the world, but I don't see it anywhere out there.  LOL
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/13 18:02:31 (permalink)
    Just because it's fun then...

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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/14 03:25:15 (permalink)
    Legion


    Dubstep is a club genre that's pretty popular in Europe. Here's an example: Benga and Skream - Walkin Bass  and a less othodox one: Burial - Archangel
    it's really popular in north america too. every major city has regular dubstep club nights.


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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/14 10:39:46 (permalink)
    Two-step is popular here!

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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/10/14 11:25:02 (permalink)
    Here's a Youtube tutorial on how to do it using NI Massive.  I'm sure it can apply to most synths.
    Dubstep Wobble Bass in Massive

    There's others on Youtube using different synths and software.  Just do a quick search for something like "dubstep bass" or "wobble bass", etc.
    post edited by bladetragic - 2010/10/14 11:27:51
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2010/11/10 01:06:30 (permalink)
    Although you could make wobble bass in Dimension pro, I'm sure most would agree there are better synths that come with sonar to use. Pentagon is probably the easier route but Z3ta is fairly simple once you get used to the interface.  here is a tutorial on using Z3ta to make wobble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxfm26TGjlc
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2012/01/11 18:31:50 (permalink)
    I appreciate all the tips on creating wobble bass.

    New question: How does one create the tone slides? (where the pitch of the wobble bass slides - usually down)
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2012/01/14 05:40:15 (permalink)
    "New question: How does one create the tone slides? (where the pitch of the wobble bass slides - usually down) "....... me personally id set an arp up in z3ta 2, set it to down (2/3 octaves, maybe 1/4 or 1/8 th notes) and put portmento on it, and obviously with the lfo sent to cut off to get the wobbles in the first place, set the tempo sync the same as the arp !! EDIT: i take the arp bit back lol just tried it doesnt sound right lol, i think to get that effect you might want to try using the pitchbend automated slightly to get that
    post edited by Chregg - 2012/01/14 05:52:51
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2012/01/14 06:23:48 (permalink)
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UKGRVFEP bravo heres a quick patch i made, play with the mod wheel and you'll see wat am saying
    post edited by Chregg - 2012/01/14 06:25:18
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2012/01/14 06:28:53 (permalink)
    for z3ta 2 that patch by the way
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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2012/01/14 11:38:11 (permalink)
    Or just because it's fun to widen the horizon.

    You never know, it might be the million-dollar question on Who Wants to be a Millionaire?


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    Re:Dubstep Question??? 2012/05/15 01:54:53 (permalink)
    in z3ta+ 2 what i usually do is map a slider on my keyboard controller to all oscillators pitch in the mod matrix for the pitch slides.  range is full and you csn play around with curves. the other cool thing is setting up six different lfos then in the mod matrix you map the source to a midi controller like a slider shift right click. then set the min vaalue for source ot off and the max to lfo6. then you use the slider to switch between lfos. then map six more sliders to each of the lfo sync parameter and you have some badass control rightt there.

     
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