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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 02:39:29
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 05:50:07
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drewfx1
I find it to be ironic that you nominated this one.
Really ? how ironic ;)
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 06:54:26
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Jokerman
I nominate "Don't Stand So Close to Me" by The Police.
He starts to shake and cough
Just like the old man in
That book by nabakov
Thats one turkey of a lyric 
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It makes more sense when you realise that it refers to the novel Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. The old man (Humbert Humbert) becomes obsessed with the 12 year old daughter (Dolores Haze aka Lolita) of his landlady. And Sting was a teacher? For my part I wonder why record companies don't at least have someone check for obvious gaffs. "The famale of the species is more deadlier than the male." Even Macca gets it wrong! "But in this ever changing world in which we live in."
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 07:08:55
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"But in this ever changing world in which we live in."
I thought that for the longest time, but I heard it again recently and it sounded like: "But in this ever-changing world in which we're living." Which would be much better. I've never seen the written lyric, though, so maybe that was "revisionist"!  -Susan
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 08:04:22
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 08:10:29
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Hi Phil- I wasn't being "charitable", I just heard another version recently and said it sounded different. I guess it was revisionist! Thanks for that- -Susan
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 13:31:32
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Springsteen's Nebraska:
"Well the jury brought in a guilty verdict, And the judge, he sentenced me to death
Midnight in the prison storeroom, With leather straps across my chest
Sherrif, when the man pulls that switch sir, and snaps my poor neck back
you make sure my pretty baby is sitting right there on my lap."
So really, he wants his beloved to die too? Maybe a shock absorber to maybe save his life in return?
I don't think people want to be sitting on your lap in the electric chair...
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 14:25:38
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Jokerman
I nominate "Don't Stand So Close to Me" by The Police.
He starts to shake and cough
Just like the old man in
That book by nabakov
Thats one turkey of a lyric
-=mike=-
It makes more sense when you realise that it refers to the novel Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. The old man (Humbert Humbert) becomes obsessed with the 12 year old daughter (Dolores Haze aka Lolita) of his landlady.
And Sting was a teacher?
For my part I wonder why record companies don't at least have someone check for obvious gaffs.
"The famale of the species is more deadlier than the male."
Even Macca gets it wrong!
"But in this ever changing world in which we live in."
I know the literary reference - it rhyming cough with Nabakov that makes me"shake and cough" -=mike=-
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/23 21:55:06
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Is it true that Jon Anderson had eaten a particularly hot curry the night before he came up with the song title " Total Mass Retain"? Me, I'd have been straight on the " Siberian Khatru" with seasons passing me by while I got up and got down had I been that " Close to the Edge".
post edited by Jonbouy - 2010/03/23 21:57:05
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/24 12:34:03
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Jonbouy
Is it true that Jon Anderson had eaten a particularly hot curry the night before he came up with the song title "Total Mass Retain"?
Me, I'd have been straight on the "Siberian Khatru" with seasons passing me by while I got up and got down had I been that "Close to the Edge".
Yeah, he gave the doggy-bag to the shining gliding purple wolfhounds.. Just heard 'Spirits Having Flown' by the Bee Gees - 'I'll be your fire in the sun' Really? Will I notice?
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/24 12:38:18
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Just heard 'Spirits Having Flown' by the Bee Gees -
'I'll be your fire in the sun'
Really? Will I notice?
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/24 17:34:26
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edentowers
Very charitable Susan, but I just found this on the web and it shows enough of the score to confirm the worst.
http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtdVPE.asp?ppn=MN0041487
And with Paul having had a Grammar School education?
Phil
I don't think the Beatles were too concerned about their grammar, etc. I mean they did write "I ain't got nothing but love babe, eight days a week". I don't believe song lyrics should be compared to poetry, or any other form of writing. Sometimes a lyric is chosen just because it rolls off the tongue easier when sung and/or fits the rhythm better. Singing a line and speaking a line are not the same thing. Lyrics have to flow. Sometimes you need to break some rules to accomplish that.
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/24 18:17:34
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Moshkiae
... heck, like thinking that The Sex Pistols had good lyrics ... Sorry Mosh, but Lydon penned some excellent lyrics. His worst 'lyrical' crime was to try and force Antichrist and Anarchist to rhyme 
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/24 18:49:38
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edentowers
Very charitable Susan, but I just found this on the web and it shows enough of the score to confirm the worst.
http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtdVPE.asp?ppn=MN0041487
And with Paul having had a Grammar School education?
Phil
I don't think the Beatles were too concerned about their grammar, etc. I mean they did write "I ain't got nothing but love babe, eight days a week". I don't believe song lyrics should be compared to poetry, or any other form of writing. Sometimes a lyric is chosen just because it rolls off the tongue easier when sung and/or fits the rhythm better. Singing a line and speaking a line are not the same thing. Lyrics have to flow. Sometimes you need to break some rules to accomplish that.
So, is that the sad truth about the state of the art? Lyrics are most certainly Poetry. No doubt about it. Lyrics are called lyrics because they are part of a musical work. That's the only difference.
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/24 19:09:52
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Bonzos Ghost
edentowers
Very charitable Susan, but I just found this on the web and it shows enough of the score to confirm the worst.
http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtdVPE.asp?ppn=MN0041487
And with Paul having had a Grammar School education?
Phil
I don't think the Beatles were too concerned about their grammar, etc. I mean they did write "I ain't got nothing but love babe, eight days a week".
I don't believe song lyrics should be compared to poetry, or any other form of writing. Sometimes a lyric is chosen just because it rolls off the tongue easier when sung and/or fits the rhythm better. Singing a line and speaking a line are not the same thing. Lyrics have to flow. Sometimes you need to break some rules to accomplish that.
So, is that the sad truth about the state of the art? Lyrics are most certainly Poetry. No doubt about it. Lyrics are called lyrics because they are part of a musical work. That's the only difference. Sad state of the art? Whaa...? I didn't say lyrics weren't or can't be poetic or called poetry. I said you have to sometimes approach your choice of words differently to get them to flow when writing lines that are meant to be sung. A good lyricist won't write lines that ties a singers tongue in knots. It's all part of the job. This isn't as important to poetry that is simply read from a book.
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 13:52:22
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jamesg1213
I was thinking more 'you haven't really thought this through..have you?' kind of thing..
Like Sade 'Smooth Operator'
'Coast to coast, LA to Chicago'
Err..whaaat??
That one is easy, James. Chicago is on the west coast of Lake Michigan, so "coast to coast" is really no stretch.
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 13:56:50
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It's hard for me to be too critical, having once written a song in which I rhyme "water" with "oughta"............
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 14:31:07
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in a 'dumb listener' moment, i used to think that the classic Musical Youth lyric was 'pasta chapatti on the left hand side'....mind you, i'm sure 'pass the duchy pan di left and side' is difficult for any 6 year old...;-)
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 14:46:04
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Crg
Lyrics are most certainly Poetry. No doubt about it. Lyrics are called lyrics because they are part of a musical work. That's the only difference.
Many years ago, comedian Steve Allen had a late night talk show. One time, he did a serious reading of a song's lyrics as it were poetry (the song being new and very popular at the time). I don't recall the official title of the song, but it was the one with the refrain "Dey do run run run, dey do run run". It still makes me laugh to recall that moment.
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 14:48:20
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jamesg1213
I was thinking more 'you haven't really thought this through..have you?' kind of thing..
Like Sade 'Smooth Operator'
'Coast to coast, LA to Chicago'
Err..whaaat??
That one is easy, James. Chicago is on the west coast of Lake Michigan, so "coast to coast" is really no stretch.
Hmm, I dunno Mark..a coast is where the land meets the ocean...lakes have a 'shore' not a 'coast'..? Dreadfully pedantic, I know 
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 15:52:21
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Hi,
I know I'm a turkey sometimes, and yes, I did try to joke about The Sex Pistols, but in general, I consider all lyrics, some form of poetry or other.
In the end, there is little difference between speaking and/or singing it (might be hard on the high notes!), if you grab an actor that knows how enunciate things and all of a sudden you have something else. Certainly not like the original that we like/prefer, but still valid.
I, personally, do not like to trash lyrics, in general, at all ... I think there is a place for all lyrics, including Bing's! How we all refer to them, though is different, and at times seeing/comparing it to literature and other more famous poetry makes some of these lines not come off as good ... however, I do think that Chuck Berry is a lot easier to sing than Shakespeare!
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 15:56:52
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jamesg1213
mcourter
jamesg1213
I was thinking more 'you haven't really thought this through..have you?' kind of thing..
Like Sade 'Smooth Operator'
'Coast to coast, LA to Chicago'
Err..whaaat??
That one is easy, James. Chicago is on the west coast of Lake Michigan, so "coast to coast" is really no stretch.
Hmm, I dunno Mark..a coast is where the land meets the ocean...lakes have a 'shore' not a 'coast'..?
Dreadfully pedantic, I know
Hey, I was just trying to help the lady out!
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 15:58:55
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Crg
Lyrics are most certainly Poetry. No doubt about it. Lyrics are called lyrics because they are part of a musical work. That's the only difference.
Many years ago, comedian Steve Allen had a late night talk show. One time, he did a serious reading of a song's lyrics as it were poetry (the song being new and very popular at the time). I don't recall the official title of the song, but it was the one with the refrain "Dey do run run run, dey do run run".
It still makes me laugh to recall that moment.
I remember Steve doing that, demonstrating how "today's" lyrics are worse than those of his generation. He lamentably overlooked notables of his own time, like Cab Calloway: hi de hi de hi de ho. and so on
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 16:49:15
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dmbaer
Crg
Lyrics are most certainly Poetry. No doubt about it. Lyrics are called lyrics because they are part of a musical work. That's the only difference.
Many years ago, comedian Steve Allen had a late night talk show. One time, he did a serious reading of a song's lyrics as it were poetry (the song being new and very popular at the time). I don't recall the official title of the song, but it was the one with the refrain "Dey do run run run, dey do run run".
It still makes me laugh to recall that moment.
I vaguely remember that skit, yes I'm that old. Music is so much more than speaking or even intoning as in a chant or prayer or mantra that the words are considered a part of the musical peice in the apppropriate spoken language. Hence the term lyric instead of poem. But it's all words. What are the words to that song?
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/25 19:41:39
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Crg
What are the words to that song?
What oh what did we ever do prior to google? I met him on a Monday and my heart stood still Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Somebody told me that his name was Bill Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Yes, my heart stood still Yes, his name was Bill And when he walked me home Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Knew what he was doin' when he caught my eye Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron He looked so quiet, but my oh my Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Yes, he caught my eye Yes, my oh my And when he walked me home Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Picked me up at seven and he looked so fine Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Someday soon, I'm gonna make him mine Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Yes, he looked so fine Yes, I'll make him mine And when he walked me home Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron Da doo ron ron ron da doo ron ron (repeat and fade out)
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/29 17:55:12
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Abba, 'Waterloo'
"That history book on the shelf, is always repeating itself"
That clock on the wall keeps nagging me too.
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/29 18:09:49
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mgh
in a 'dumb listener' moment, i used to think that the classic Musical Youth lyric was 'pasta chapatti on the left hand side'....mind you, i'm sure 'pass the duchy pan di left and side' is difficult for any 6 year old...;-)
:) I used to work with a guy who genuinely thought that Ray Parker Jr's 1984 hit was called "those bast*rds! Funny thing is that when you listen it does sound like it and it also kind of works lyrically... If there's something strange in your neighborhood Who ya gonna call? THOSE BAST*RDS !
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/29 20:43:23
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"It's only words" Yup, and a carefully choosed one was these.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2010/03/29 20:50:14
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/30 08:48:30
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This doesn't really qualify as "dumb", only annoying and obvious, and will only make sense to people in the US who hear this jingle on the radio ad nauseum, with a little kid singing: "Golden Blossom Honey Makes everything taste better"! The lyric should obviously be: "Golden Blossom Honey Makes everything taste funny"! -Susan
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Re:Dumb lyrics
2010/03/30 09:02:22
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hear this jingle on the radio ad nauseum There are some products I will never buy due to that and some songs that I will never listen to again. I imagine the original authors of some of those lyrics are in a padded room somewhere.
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