Raberje
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EDIROL VSC
Does anyone know what version of Sonar/Cakewalk the Edirol VSC Synth is on? I have a file of a song i wrote many years ago and since I now use Producer 8.5 I can't play my song any suggestions?
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 18:21:00
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Hey Raberje,
I don't have the Edirol VSC but I do have the Roland VSC. Wait - the files say Roland but when the program launches it says Edirol, version 3.23. Will that work for you?
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Raberje
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 18:23:25
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Where can I get and will it work with 8.5?
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 18:26:18
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Since the Edirol VSC is a General MIDI synth, use the TTS-1 as a replacement. Might work fine and easily for you.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 18:36:35
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I think rbowser is right, TTS-1 shou.ld work. If not, PM me and we'll figure something out
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 18:55:35
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I think Windows 98 is the last version it worked with.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 19:28:14
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The Edirol VSC served the same function the Cakewalk TTS-1 now fills - as a good GM module to start up projects with. The patches in your old files will have the instruments numbered as per the GM spec, so even though the sound will be different, and the balance may need adjusting, it should be easy to use the TTS-1 to take over since the VSC isn't available. The patch changes may even be there in your track headers.
I used the VSC on my XP desktop up until not all that long ago, when I was still using Home Studio 6.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 19:53:56
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It's General Midi-TTS-1 plays it no problem
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 20:21:24
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Raberje
Does anyone know what version of Sonar/Cakewalk the Edirol VSC Synth is on? I have a file of a song i wrote many years ago and since I now use Producer 8.5 I can't play my song any suggestions?
I'm running the risk of being misinterpreted as being condescending or unfairly critical (which I am not intending) but this is a prime example of why I always bounce MIDI tracks to audio and export them as Broadcast wav files for ANY project that I remotely consider as worth saving for future use. Save the files to CD/DVD or a separate HD (depending on their size). Both mediums are extremely inexpensive.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 20:47:51
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If the song was written for the VSC it is also written for the TTS-1. The reverse is not true. What you need to do is set the outs to the TTS-1 and play your song. It will sound the same or perhaps better.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 21:10:11
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it came with Sonar 3 for sure and maybe previous sonar versions.....try to output your midi tracks to the cakewalk tts ...was origianlly called roland tts and is an update to the edirol vsc
you may need to transpose some tracks to get it to come out right.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 21:55:55
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papa2005
Raberje
Does anyone know what version of Sonar/Cakewalk the Edirol VSC Synth is on? I have a file of a song i wrote many years ago and since I now use Producer 8.5 I can't play my song any suggestions?
I'm running the risk of being misinterpreted as being condescending or unfairly critical (which I am not intending) but this is a prime example of why I always bounce MIDI tracks to audio and export them as Broadcast wav files for ANY project that I remotely consider as worth saving for future use. Save the files to CD/DVD or a separate HD (depending on their size). Both mediums are extremely inexpensive.
I think that's a good point because I had some older projects that I had to fix up when I moved to Windows 7 and Sonar 8.5 because some of the older effects were no longer installed or didn't work anymore.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:02:33
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Papa's post was very fair. Projects really can't be left in a MIDI-only state. I know people manage to make decent mixes without ever rendering their soft synths to audio tracks, but I really don't know how they succeed.
My projects always end up with archived MIDI tracks, and audio tracks for each MIDI track - and those are the ones I've mixed for the final 2-track master. The whole lot gets archived on disc.
MIDI can be so ephemeral, with synths maybe no longer functioning or even in existence. You want to have good, dry audio tracks of all that work to archive, maybe work with again, without relying on starting from scratch again, trying to wrangle together your synths etc.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:31:03
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I kind of do what RBowser does and what papa mentioned-Mainly because I am all midi except accoustic and electric guitars and vocals. After I bounce to audio, I mute the midi tracks and mix the audio. But I "always save my midi files because they are me, not commercial midis. I was able to go and replace most of my bass tracks with the Scarbee Pree and Jay Basses after I bought them a few weeks ago. I know I could have played them again (on my midi controller, but saving the midi files lets me go back and just replace the bass softsynth, but my performance is still there. Works great for me. I work hard on my midi files they awlays get saved. I also save the mixed audio of course.
post edited by stratman70 - 2010/05/01 22:34:22
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:34:03
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rbowser
Papa's post was very fair. Projects really can't be left in a MIDI-only state. I know people manage to make decent mixes without ever rendering their soft synths to audio tracks, but I really don't know how they succeed.
My projects always end up with archived MIDI tracks, and audio tracks for each MIDI track - and those are the ones I've mixed for the final 2-track master. The whole lot gets archived on disc.
MIDI can be so ephemeral, with synths maybe no longer functioning or even in existence. You want to have good, dry audio tracks of all that work to archive, maybe work with again, without relying on starting from scratch again, trying to wrangle together your synths etc.
rbowser
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rbowser
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:37:49
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stratman70
I kind of do what RBrowser does and what papa mentioned-Mainly because I am all midi except accoustic and electric guitars and vocals. After I bounce to audio, I mute the midi tracks and mix the audio. But I "always save my midi files because they are me, not commercial midis. I was able to go and replace most of my bass tracks with the Scarbee Pree and Jay Basses after I bought them a few weeks ago. I know I could have played them again (on my midi controller, but saving the midi files lets me go back and just replace the bass softsynth, but my performance is still there.
Works great for me. I work hard on my midi files they awlays get saved. I also save the mixed audio of course.
It's a great stratagem, Stratman. It's great to be able to replace previously recorded tracks by running a MIDI track through a new soft synth and upping the quality of what we had before. There's always some adaptation to me made in the MIDI data when played through a new instrument - attack envelopes may be different, so timing may need to be shifted, response to velocity may be different and so also needs to be adjusted, etc. But what you're saying is right on, that we need to safely archive our MIDI tracks along with the audio even if it ends up being re-done. What we don't want is a "naked" MIDI file which needs to be completely built up again. If for some reason we insist on only keeping the MIDI, it at least should be as a Cakewalk file and not a standard MIDI 1 file. rbowser
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:43:07
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rbowser
stratman70
I kind of do what RBrowser does and what papa mentioned-Mainly because I am all midi except accoustic and electric guitars and vocals. After I bounce to audio, I mute the midi tracks and mix the audio. But I "always save my midi files because they are me, not commercial midis. I was able to go and replace most of my bass tracks with the Scarbee Pree and Jay Basses after I bought them a few weeks ago. I know I could have played them again (on my midi controller, but saving the midi files lets me go back and just replace the bass softsynth, but my performance is still there.
Works great for me. I work hard on my midi files they awlays get saved. I also save the mixed audio of course.
It's a great stratagem, Stratman. It's great to be able to replace previously recorded tracks by running a MIDI track through a new soft synth and upping the quality of what we had before. There's always some adaptation to me made in the MIDI data when played through a new instrument - attack envelopes may be different, so timing may need to be shifted, response to velocity may be different and so also needs to be adjusted, etc. But what you're saying is right on, that we need to safely archive our MIDI tracks along with the audio even if it ends up being re-done.
What we don't want is a "naked" MIDI file which needs to be completely built up again. If for some reason we insist on only keeping the MIDI, it at least should be as a Cakewalk file and not a standard MIDI 1 file.
rbowser
RB-You are correct-That's the way I save them. I should have been clearer. And I did have to fool with the velocity and a few other things when I replaced the bass with the Scarbees. But it was well worth it.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:48:56
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If I'm not mistaken, I have VSC on my computer in the studio. I am at work right now so I can't see if it's Edirol or not.
I built my new PC ( 3yrs ago!) and loaded S7 on it (or was it 6?). Went back and loaded just the fx from PA 9 and then S5 & S6. They are all still working on my PC. I did this for my older projects.
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Re:EDIROL VSC
2010/05/01 22:54:16
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Curious-At the risk of sounding foolish-The musical, the music is all you? That's really fabulous-Congrats!!!!!
EDIT: I just went back and read the Press release(I went to the other link (video) before. That is "Fabulous for sure!
Hey, Mon - just now seeing your message about the info in my signature. Thanks for taking a look --Yeah, as you see now from the press release, the show opening in Russia features music by me. It's my dramatic stage musical adaptation of the horror novel, "The Picture of Dorian Gray." There's quite a story behind everything that's happened, but in a nutshell - Michael Butler, producer of the original "HAIR" on Broadway saw the amateur premiere of my show, signed me up, and then arranged for this professional premiere in Moscow. It's been a big Show Biz roller coaster of a ride for a couple of years now. I'm stoked that the Russian version if finally opening. Thanks! rbowser
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Re: EDIROL VSC
2016/10/01 21:37:01
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the only version of release in know of, if your question wasn't answered, was music creator 3.
now how to get it edirol VSC to work with sonar platinum, it does work on all other versions, windows 10 included, if you play with the compatability, but havnt bridged it to sonar platinum yet. sucks, cause, seeming like you, I like the originals to stay that way. dreading the idea of remapping the synths. I WANT IT THE WAY IT WAS...
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Re: EDIROL VSC
2016/10/02 04:22:45
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The Edirol VSC was in Sonar 3. I still use it for old projects and it works for me in Platinum on windows 10. 32bit only, however. I believe the TTS-1 begins with Sonar 4.
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