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2010/02/16 08:24:26 (permalink)

EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios

this wrong on so many levels - EMI should still run it no matter who owns it I think .... I also think Ringo and McCartney should go in half and half and buy it.. make sure the tradition of studio 2 stays intack....


here's an article on it >>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk...-road-studios-sale-emi/

 

 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 08:31:44 (permalink)
    Hey you should have included a price and finance terms.  Maybe some of us can buy it.  

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 08:41:06 (permalink)
    I thought the same exact thing... well,  I didn't think I could buy it.. but I instantly thought "space cowboy should buy it"

    Hey space maybe you can put together a package we can all get in on? :-)


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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 09:07:49 (permalink)
    If it's one of those group buy thingys it should get cheaper the more of us there are.

    If we can get it down to75p I'm in!

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 10:56:17 (permalink)
    Hi,

    The whole "studio" thing is going and will be gone in a couple more years.

    The biggest thing, in my book, and I'm not an everyday musician that could appreciate a studio that big, is that while that studio had its day in time, in the end, it was way too expensive and did not do enough to help "music" per se ... in the end, they only helped those that could afford it (very British of them!) ... and told everyone else to get folk'd without saying it.

    In a way, the whole Clash/SexPistols thing was a reaction to that overbearing richness, but it also helped people find something else in music that was the very essence of "rock'n'roll" and its legend .. the freshness, the raw emotion ... something that a studio that big had a tendency to take out in flavor of the technical wizardry of it all.

    I would not want it to end anymore than you do ... a lot of really fine music came through there ... but today ... they are just a fat rich old cow that no one can afford, and while the CHB can do just fine in Sonar ... it will be a cold day in ****ing hell that they would ever get an invite to just use the bathrooms in that building! Let alone look at a microphone! And a lot of "sonic" sounds can be done digitally and better these days ... give that place some credit ... they helped define/shape sound ... and take it to the next level ... they were never really about the "music" ... but in the end, some of it came out really well ... because there were people that really knew what they were doing ... unfortunately, for some bands, that wasn't them ... it was anything but!

    And really, in the end ... would the CHB sound better? ... or just become another fat cash cow band ... simply because they "went there" kinda of thing?

    You live ... and then you die ... long live EMI ... ciao baby! It's someone else's turn!
    post edited by Moshkiae - 2010/02/16 11:01:19

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:16:09 (permalink)
    Moshkiae


    Hi,

    The whole "studio" thing is going and will be gone in a couple more years.

    The biggest thing, in my book, and I'm not an everyday musician that could appreciate a studio that big, is that while that studio had its day in time, in the end, it was way too expensive and did not do enough to help "music" per se ... in the end, they only helped those that could afford it (very British of them!) ... and told everyone else to get folk'd without saying it.

    In a way, the whole Clash/SexPistols thing was a reaction to that overbearing richness, but it also helped people find something else in music that was the very essence of "rock'n'roll" and its legend .. the freshness, the raw emotion ... something that a studio that big had a tendency to take out in flavor of the technical wizardry of it all.

    I would not want it to end anymore than you do ... a lot of really fine music came through there ... but today ... they are just a fat rich old cow that no one can afford, and while the CHB can do just fine in Sonar ... it will be a cold day in ****ing hell that they would ever get an invite to just use the bathrooms in that building! Let alone look at a microphone! And a lot of "sonic" sounds can be done digitally and better these days ... give that place some credit ... they helped define/shape sound ... and take it to the next level ... they were never really about the "music" ... but in the end, some of it came out really well ... because there were people that really knew what they were doing ... unfortunately, for some bands, that wasn't them ... it was anything but!

    And really, in the end ... would the CHB sound better? ... or just become another fat cash cow band ... simply because they "went there" kinda of thing?

    You live ... and then you die ... long live EMI ... ciao baby! It's someone else's turn!

    Well I agree with most of what you say Moshkie
     
    but anyone can rent studio time at Abbey Road - People who are just Beatles fans rented time in studio 2 at abbey road (the beatles room) just to say they did and recorded a track or two - - you can find it on Youtube
     
    you could also have things mastered there -- and they still do big movie work - like the sound track for Harry Potter
     
    I know there have been even cases of wives renting out studio two for a recording session for their husbands as an annavarsy gift
     
    so I dont think its all that hard to get into - book the time -- pay the money -- and go
     
    even Bapu could do that
     
    how much is the studio time ? I dunno -- probably a lot - -I can go to abbey roads web site and I believe the info is there
     
    I agree with pretty much everything else you said -
     
    the article even says EMI is liek 120 million in the hole and selling the abbey road studio will only cover 10 mil of it -- so they are probaly goners -
     
    But I hope someone who appreciates .. like you said -- the music and history that is in that building - -the old eqipment -- all the studder mulit-tracks -
     
    I would like to see one of the living Beatles step up to the plate -- and buy the place -- if nothing else preserve it as a museume and give it to the rock n roll hall of fame --  something along those lines - I have great respect for abbey road -- sudio 2 in particular.......
     
    It is being used an a lot still.... if you look at the abbey road web site and youtube studio 2 abbey road you will see what I mean -- its EMI that going under -- the actually studio may still be salvagable in some way - -i would like it to be a mussume and part of the rock n roll hall of fame
     
    come on Paul and ringo -- you two have the funds -- get it done  
     
     
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:21:35 (permalink)
     you can  book time through this web site

    maybe they are having an going out of buisness sale on studio time - lol


    http://www.abbeyroad.com/
     
     
    a quote from the article
     
    "In the new, hi-tech world in which bands can record on laptops, however, its studios are said to have become too expensive. The FT quoted a media lawyer saying: "The brand is worth more than the building … what you have is a very expensive piece of heritage. If an artist goes to a label and asks to record at Abbey Road they will be met with maniacal laughter."
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:28:29 (permalink)
    Moshkiae


    And really, in the end ... would the CHB sound better? ... or just become another fat cash cow band ... simply because they "went there" kinda of thing?


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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:28:55 (permalink)
    What makes it saleable is that there will be buyers for it and it will still likely make more than the real estate value of the buildings next door.

    You can't be sentimental when time has come to sell off the family silver and that makes 10% of their (EMI's) current debt without much reducing their operation in any tangible way.  So business wise to me it makes a lot of sense.

    Maybe a new buyer will be more heritage concious than EMI but the fact is all this time after the events of the 60's it's been a real working studio paying for it's own upkeep as being just that.  What would be sad for it was if it did become a shrine to the past thereby losing any hope of becoming ground-breaking (or happening) again in the future.

    More than the bricks and mortar of the place it was the people around at the time that made all the magic happen, the venue was merely a witness.
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:36:38 (permalink)
    so I dont think its all that hard to get into - book the time -- pay the money -- and go   even Bapu could do that

    Heh Heh!
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:51:41 (permalink)
    Hi,

    I hope the recording studio survives ... but even recording an orchestra today is prohibitive and they don't take kindly to synthesizers to help them some ... damn purists and traditionalists! ... (hehe!) ...

    As for EMI, they did not stay up with the times ... they milked as much as they could and now are old codgers that have no idea what else to do ... so ... Paul and Ringo, buy the studio off them, and let EMI die ... even Pink Floyd folks should step up ... but I'm not sure that Roger cares that much ... and DAve has too many kids to worry about as it is ... !

    I do remember that they did some nice things in the early days ... I mean ... they did pop off all those Harvest albums that had better music than just Pink Floyd ... sadly, not enough people heard them ... and the big mistake was not helping some of those people ... and rip them off ... instead!

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 11:56:48 (permalink)
    "recording an orchestra today is prohibitive"

    No it is not.

    There are some great deals in Croatia this time of year.

    I do not think you have any idea what you are talking about.


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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 12:12:14 (permalink)
    mike_mccue


    "recording an orchestra today is prohibitive"

    No it is not.

    There are some great deals in Croatia this time of year.

    I do not think you have any idea what you are talking about.


    Ohhh ... I get it ... move the studio to Croatia! ... definitely not Mexico ... yeah ... it would be way too expensive in Germany or France ...

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 12:13:00 (permalink)
    Moshkiae


    Hi,

    The whole "studio" thing is going and will be gone in a couple more years.

    The biggest thing, in my book, and I'm not an everyday musician that could appreciate a studio that big, is that while that studio had its day in time, in the end, it was way too expensive and did not do enough to help "music" per se ... in the end, they only helped those that could afford it (very British of them!) ... and told everyone else to get folk'd without saying it.

    In a way, the whole Clash/SexPistols thing was a reaction to that overbearing richness, but it also helped people find something else in music that was the very essence of "rock'n'roll" and its legend .. the freshness, the raw emotion ... something that a studio that big had a tendency to take out in flavor of the technical wizardry of it all.

    I would not want it to end anymore than you do ... a lot of really fine music came through there ... but today ... they are just a fat rich old cow that no one can afford, and while the CHB can do just fine in Sonar ... it will be a cold day in ****ing hell that they would ever get an invite to just use the bathrooms in that building! Let alone look at a microphone! And a lot of "sonic" sounds can be done digitally and better these days ... give that place some credit ... they helped define/shape sound ... and take it to the next level ... they were never really about the "music" ... but in the end, some of it came out really well ... because there were people that really knew what they were doing ... unfortunately, for some bands, that wasn't them ... it was anything but!

    And really, in the end ... would the CHB sound better? ... or just become another fat cash cow band ... simply because they "went there" kinda of thing?

    You live ... and then you die ... long live EMI ... ciao baby! It's someone else's turn!

    Excuse me?


     
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 12:20:09 (permalink)
    in the end ... would the CHB sound better? ... or just become another fat cash cow band



    Guys (CHB members),


    I hope we have not abandoned this notion?

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 12:20:20 (permalink)
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    Excuse me?
    You're excused ... class is over already! You get a B+ for showing up!

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 12:28:57 (permalink)
    I assume some really rich guy will just buy it as another trophy/toy, ala Paul Allen or Jim Irsay. 

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 13:02:21 (permalink)
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    I assume some really rich guy will just buy it as another trophy/toy, ala Paul Allen or Jim Irsay. 

    drewfx

     
     
    I wish I was that rich guy
     
    whomever buys it -- I hope that the things that happened in that studio are respected and preserved
     
     
     
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 14:21:04 (permalink)
    bapu



    in the end ... would the CHB sound better? ... or just become another fat cash cow band



    Guys (CHB members),


    I hope we have not abandoned this notion?

    Bap$i


    Of course not, what waste my hard won expertise in the fat cow dept?

    Come to think of it why in descriptive terms are lean pigs desirable but fat cows not so much?

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/16 15:28:46 (permalink)
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    Hey you should have included a price and finance terms.  Maybe some of us can buy it.  

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/17 22:28:06 (permalink)
    I think the gov't (if Paul doesn't purchase it) should own it.  Perhaps turn it into a museum.  There is a lot of history there to be preserved.
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/17 23:08:59 (permalink)
    kson


    I think the gov't (if Paul doesn't purchase it) should own it.  Perhaps turn it into a museum.  There is a lot of history there to be preserved.


    Paul McCartney has (from some reports) like 800 million in the bank -- and if youy count his assets his total worth is a billion

    that being said -- I am hearing 40 mil for abbey road


    then that being said -- ive read interviews where Paul is saying he WANTS the studio saved -- but he keeps refering to saying something along the lines of .. there are people who have a history in abbey road whom are working out amoung themselves a plan to save it -- and he hopes they do

    he's not willing to get involved it seems --

    but hoping these people he knows "get it saved"...

    I wish he (paul) would just throw down the 40 mil and say - ok -- I own it now --  if he worked it right -- he would make money

    however -- if i can ramble on more --  i have a feeling he knows the people trying to save the studio -- perhaps is friends with them -- and stepping back letting them work out whatever plan they have


    from reading the interviews -- I have a feeling that's whats happening







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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/18 00:58:56 (permalink)
    If you don't mind, I'd like to share a few of my Abbey Road Photos … I’ll leave them up for a couple of days (and yes, they are a Pro Tools studio).


    This is the control room for studio 2:





    This is the control room for studio 3:





    This is studio 2:





    If my memory serves me correctly, this is the drum booth for studio 3.  It was a Yamaha kit with an sm57 on top of the snare, an AKG 414 on the bottom of the snare, a big Shure dynamic and a condenser on the bass drum and a slue of Beyer dynamics and Neumans around the kit:





    This is another angle in control room 3 (that is the back of Sam’s head):



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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/18 05:31:36 (permalink)
    Fantastic pictures...

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/18 07:54:06 (permalink)
    Yes, very nice photos! 

    Hey, let's form a CH consortium and buy Abbey Road so we can convert it to Sonar. 

    I'm good for $50. 

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/18 09:21:15 (permalink)
    It will be interesting to see how it goes and how much equipment is included in the sale.
    Whether they will begin selling off the the priceless stuff that might be in that building prior to selling the studio.

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/18 09:34:03 (permalink)
    It seems people are getting lost in the hype. Abbey isn't going to close down. It is still a very viable business. It's current owners, EMI are very traditional and pompous. Even in the mid to late 1960's they still insisted that all EMI engineers should wear long brown jackets as though they worked in an electronics factory.  They have long believed that they are the music industry, and that rather than conform to new trends in the music industry, the music industry should step back in line with EMI. This has finally caught up with them (as we all predicted it would), and they are in big trouble, and have to raise some capital. They figure that as Abbey is the most famous studio in the world, and has a load of history, it's going to be a good asset to capitalise on, as it will sell for more than it's real worth.
     
    Abbey road is owned by EMI. Abbey has it's own management team that will be sold with the studio complex. It will be sold as an on going business, and will more than likely be bought by someone in the music biz, probably a house hold name. My money would be on Dicky Pickle to be one of the names vying to buy it, but there will be many in the running, to buy it as an ongoing studio business. They may redevelop it a bit to fit in with their own business model, but it will remain Abbey Road Studios, with the same staff. It will not be turned into a museum, or be knocked down to build high rise flats!
     
    And just so that you know, Abbey is not being put out of business by the fact that kids can now do their own recordings on a laptop in their bedrooms - as the BBC have suggested!
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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/22 07:34:30 (permalink)
    I just spotted this news story that EMI has changed its mind about sell Abbey Road:


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.../eu_britain_abbey_road


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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/22 07:37:18 (permalink)
    Damn! I'm withdrawing my bid.

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    Re:EMI is selling Abbey Road Studios 2010/02/22 10:04:31 (permalink)
    Whether they will begin selling off the the priceless stuff that might be in that building


    Not only is it on display ... but,  they don't have a special room for it.  All of that priceless stuff just lines the hallways so you can actually put your finger on a piece of history if you so desire.

    Dave

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