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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/14 15:31:00
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The best and easiest way to convert ToonTrack MIDI to AD2 is EZPlayer Pro. But I still can't figure how to do the opposite with it, i.e. convert AD2 MIDI to EZD2 format.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/14 15:52:42
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/01/19 13:45:45
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The best and easiest way to convert ToonTrack MIDI to AD2 is EZPlayer Pro. But I still can't figure how to do the opposite with it, i.e. convert AD2 MIDI to EZD2 format.
If your EZD2 can import MIDI files then you could do this (even if not, you could still drag a modified MIDI file into your sequencer track): AD2 drum mapping seems a bit quirky. But there is always the quick and dirty way of dragging AD2 patterns from the plugin to MIDI tracks in Sonar. I dragged a few patterns out of AD into MIDI tracks in a Sonar project, and pointed them to channel 10 in TTS-1, but you could just as easily point them to any drum VST, such as EZD2. For my example, in the TTS-1 GM drum kit, the kick, snare, and at least one tom sounded close to correct. But I heard cowbells and weird stuff where some cymbals should be. But I was just trying to get a basic GM kit to play an AD2 pattern. So drag the pattern you want from AD2 into a new Sonar MIDI track, output to the desired drum VST drum kit, then open up the pattern in Piano Roll view and play the keys corresponding to the notes you see in the pattern. If they already match up to the sound in your drum kit, great. If not, just use the move tool to move the note to a pitch corresponding with the correct kit piece. When done editing, just export as MIDI. It's a bit of work, but you now have a pattern that plays your kit correctly 
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/14 16:05:31
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/12/22 11:13:27
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The best and easiest way to convert ToonTrack MIDI to AD2 is EZPlayer Pro. But I still can't figure how to do the opposite with it, i.e. convert AD2 MIDI to EZD2 format.
I've done that. It's the reason I bought EZ Player Pro. Download the AD MIDI from your favorite martian's link above. Add those files to the EZPP user lib.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/17 23:19:38
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/12/18 06:46:54
For Addictive Drums, did you visit the Map Window? Hit the ? button in the top right corner and select Map Window. There you should be able to select a preset for GM.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/18 09:00:37
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sharke
For Addictive Drums, did you visit the Map Window? Hit the ? button in the top right corner and select Map Window. There you should be able to select a preset for GM.
I have an AD2 map made for using EZD2 midi. You are all welcome to PM your e-mail, and I'll send it to you to try. The map I have used to be on the xlnaudio forum, I didn't make it, but I did save it.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/18 09:16:54
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For Addictive Drums, did you visit the Map Window? Hit the ? button in the top right corner and select Map Window. There you should be able to select a preset for GM.
I have an AD2 map made for using EZD2 midi. You are all welcome to PM your e-mail, and I'll send it to you to try.
The map I have used to be on the xlnaudio forum, I didn't make it, but I did save it.
Thanks Clint ... you gave that to me last year  I'm experimenting right now with the "native" AD GM map. I'm hoping that with that selected that the clips I drag out are GM. It's funny sometimes the simple stuff I get hung up on. I just want some 6/8 beats in my FA - lol
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/18 12:17:06
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/01/19 03:35:32
BobF
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For Addictive Drums, did you visit the Map Window? Hit the ? button in the top right corner and select Map Window. There you should be able to select a preset for GM.
I have an AD2 map made for using EZD2 midi. You are all welcome to PM your e-mail, and I'll send it to you to try.
The map I have used to be on the xlnaudio forum, I didn't make it, but I did save it.
Thanks Clint ... you gave that to me last year
I'm experimenting right now with the "native" AD GM map. I'm hoping that with that selected that the clips I drag out are GM.
It's funny sometimes the simple stuff I get hung up on. I just want some 6/8 beats in my FA - lol
It should work. I experimented by dragging a couple of clips to a MIDI track, each with different mapping presets enabled in AD. The resulting MIDI was different in each case. The Native Instruments drum kits have similar mapping presets which determine the MIDI that's dragged out.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2016/12/22 11:15:08
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BobF
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The best and easiest way to convert ToonTrack MIDI to AD2 is EZPlayer Pro. But I still can't figure how to do the opposite with it, i.e. convert AD2 MIDI to EZD2 format.
I've done that. It's the reason I bought EZ Player Pro. Download the AD MIDI from your favorite martian's link above. Add those files to the EZPP user lib.
Thanks! I only had to use add path menu and choose source mapping. Very easy. 
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/18 14:33:57
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In Ad2 click the ? Next to beats map window map presets
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/19 03:37:10
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/01/19 13:49:23
I'm with sharke... Just change the AD2 map to GM and drag into sonar. Viola GM midi drum track. Unless you're talking about losing some of the nuance of the more expansive default AD2 map?
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/19 14:23:04
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I tried the suggestion by sharke, too, and it works! I just gotta say, it never hurts to read the AD2 manual either. I found a big section starting on page 35 about the MAP window. Lot's of useful info in there! I tried it and the TTS-1 GM kit does play the patterns from AD2, if the GM map is selected in AD2 before dragging the pattern out.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/25 12:14:08
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Silly question, but where are the AD2 drum maps saved during install on the hard drive?
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/25 12:21:38
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/25 15:53:45
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Thanks Abacab... I've seen this doc before and it helped me... But where are all the drum maps that come with AD2 saved during the initial install of AD2 ?? I've emailed XLN but haven't got a response as of today... would have been a good question for the XLN forum, but it no longer exists I guess.
Thanks again...
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/25 16:49:14
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That is weird! If you save a new map within the AD2 map window, it goes into your Documents/Addictive Drums 2/ folder with a .ad2map extension.
But the factory maps don't seem to be visible? I searched my hard drives for the .ad2map files, and found nothing other than what I put there!
XLN is probably the only one that knows...
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/25 18:55:13
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Yes, weird it is...
I searched the whole computer for different extensions (e.g., .map , .admap. , .ad2map) and found nothing really... All I found was the following: AD2keymap (which was listed a AD2MAPLIST file)
Wonder if XLN will be tight lipped about it?
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/26 20:03:38
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Doesn't AD include lots of actions that GM doesn't, like cymbal mutes and such?
Doesn't that affect the mapping and/or conversion?
I guess any AD extra actions just need to be remapped to the bit bucket, or to an alternate key. Better no note, than the wrong sound, eh?
I looked at the conversion rule sets that ship with MIDI file Mapper, and saw one included for "EZDrummer to GM", but none yet for "AD to GM". But there is one for "GM to AD".
You would probably need to lay out the drum map specs for AD & GM side by side, then create the custom XML rules for what you wanted to replace. That option is provided
That may be because the AD MIDI files are in some kind of proprietary format and are only available to be dragged out of AD into something else.
Unless...
You know the secret, hidden webpage in your XLN account. Log in, and append "/offline" to the URL so it looks like "https://www.xlnaudio.com/myaccount-myproducts/offline", press Enter, scroll to the bottom of the page, and there you'll find all of your purchased MIDI packs in MIDI format, perfect for use as INPUT to MIDI File Mapper.
Who's gonna write the AD to GM rule set?
Maybe there is a hidden location for the drum maps too???
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/29 05:16:10
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Perhaps you need to enable Show hidden files in Windows.
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/29 11:08:12
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mudgel
Perhaps you need to enable Show hidden files in Windows.
I'll try it...
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Re: EZ Drummer & Addictive Drums MIDI
2017/01/29 11:16:17
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Received this email from XLN regarding my question:
<It is not possible to directly access the Drum Maps that we have included with AD2. However if you want to add your own maps by dragging these in. Then you need to place them into the following folder in the main Documents folder :
C:\Users\YOUR OWN NAME\Documents\Addictive Drums 2\141087>
I think a good workaround would be to save the XLN drum maps in the Map Window giving them a new name, which will then be placed in the above mentioned folder so that you can drag these out. SOLVED
Salud,
Freq
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