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EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar - Resolved?
Months ago, I had completely uninstalled EZDrummer and then reinstalled only EZDrummer 1 because EZDrummer 2 screwed up all my projects. I understood from posts here and announcements on the Toontrack site that the problems were resolved. I just installed the latest version of EZD2 and applied the most recent updates. When I opened an existing project, inputs and outputs for all the tracks—not just drums—were all screwed up. I had to re-establish all the Ins and Outs and every track for both MIDI and audio, which meant splitting all the simple instrument tracks. Luckily, I created a restore point on my PC, so EZD2 is about to go away forever (hopefully). I will use EZD1 when I need it but I will not continue with Toontrack products and I will never upgrade again. If I need more drums, I will buy another product. By the way, my project may be corrupted even if I restore my PC—and I hope the restore works. This is quite unbelievable.
post edited by konradh - 2015/04/01 22:17:28
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/28 18:50:48
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☄ Helpfulby John 2015/03/30 23:33:59
Go into EZdrummer and turn on the SONAR option in the Menu. When you open a project with EZD2 in it, it will ask you how many channels you want to use. Select 8 and your channels will be preserved in the other softsynths.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/28 18:59:55
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Hmm, Dave. That's good to know. I actually just restored my system, but I can reinstall EZ2. The thing is, the second I open an existing project, my Ins/Outs are hosed, so are you saying this is only for new projects? Or will setting this option fix all the broken Ins/Outs? Or, do I need to set the option and manually fix the Ins/Outs? Sorry, just want to understand—but this is excellent information. Thanks. PS I don't really need the new EZD2 features that much (although they are nice) but I do like the extra drum kits, handclaps, and tamb.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/28 19:07:49
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No, just open a project. Change the EZD2 settings and close the project without saving anything. After that, when a Sonar project that contains EZD2 opens it will display a box asking whether you want to open 8 channels or 16 channels. That way you can do both. I've only got one legacy project that uses EZD1 and it works perfectly. Eventually, I will reset all of the midi channels in that project and then I won't have to use the SONAR option.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/28 20:21:08
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Sorry, Konrad, I read your post on my phone but have only just returned home so that I can post, and Dave has already answered your query. If I open up a project that used EZd1 (or a legacy project in Dave speak), I click on "Menu/Sonar Options" and choose "Show number of outputs on startup", then close the project. When you then re-open the project, choose "8 Outputs", and all is well. I don't have EXd do this all the time, only when I open a project that I started with EZd1. HTH
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/28 22:42:27
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How about drum maps for EZd2... I'm totally lost when it comes to that.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 16:27:33
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keneds How about drum maps for EZd2... I'm totally lost when it comes to that.
I wish drum maps could be built with a spreadsheet or something else that would speed up the process. The only way I know to do it now is in the Drum Map Manager and it's kind of tedious. I don't use drum maps so I haven't had the motivation to create any since the first year EZDrummer came out.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 21:24:25
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I do have older ones from EZd 1 such as the drum kit from hell and vintage drums ....they're close but not perfect, I have been editing the drum names, hopefully they stuck with the project save. I haven't checked yet.
I've scoured the TT site and there is no signs of maps like there used to be.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 21:36:18
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Also try to avoid simple instrument tracks. You really will find life much easier without them.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 22:28:12
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John, On simple instrument tracks, are you referring to EZD? I typically don't do that. I do use simple instrument tracks for Kontakt/Scarbee bass, SI Elec Piano, and other single-sounds VIs (just to avoid clutter). Is that a problem?
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 22:52:00
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EDIT: I cannot find this option in either stand-alone or when opening the VST within Sonar. I have looked through all the options I can find. A previous post said the Sonar setting was under Sound Engine. I do not see that. NOTE: I downloaded the most recent version of EZDrummer 2 and downloaded and installed all the updates.
post edited by konradh - 2015/03/30 23:06:26
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 23:12:47
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konradh John, On simple instrument tracks, are you referring to EZD? I typically don't do that. I do use simple instrument tracks for Kontakt/Scarbee bass, SI Elec Piano, and other single-sounds VIs (just to avoid clutter). Is that a problem?
OK I understand that some believe less clutter is more important than total control but I'm not one of those. Also Kontakt is a multi out sampler and shouldn't be used as a simple instrument. Its not simple anyway. LOL What I do is place all MIDI tracks together and all the audio outs together. When done with the MIDI its hidden. Whats left is just audio. Clutter, what clutter?
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 23:31:09
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Gotcha John. Just didn't know how this related to EZD; but I understand about splitting the MIDI and Audio. I do that often and put all the MIDI in a folder; but sometimes I get lazy on simple sounds.  I think you are correct, tho, that splitting is best.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 23:31:54
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But os this doesn't get lost: I cannot find the Sonar option for EXDrummer 2 in either stand-alone or when opening the VST within Sonar. I have looked through all the options I can find. A previous post said the Sonar setting was under Sound Engine. I do not see that. NOTE: I downloaded the most recent version of EZDrummer 2 and downloaded and installed all the updates.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 23:39:22
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Konrad I hope this is not OT but you are becoming one of my favorite posters. You have a nice manner. It will pay off in the end. I don't use EZdrummer I am a BFD3 user and so I don't know anything about it. But I wish you well.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/30 23:42:27
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Thanks, John! I have great respect for my fellow Forumites (Sonarians?). Have a groovy day!
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/31 07:11:47
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Konrad,
I replied to your PM but I will post some screen shots this evening to show you where the Sonar option is.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/31 12:16:54
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It is only in vst version of EZd. Top right hand corner of EZdrummer interface is "Menu" drop down. It is next to the orange section where you choose your kits/EZX. Click on menu, 8th item down is "Sonar Options". Choose "Show number of outputs on startup". Then close the project. When you then re-open the project you will be asked to choose number of outputs,, choose "8 Outputs", and all is well. I don't have EXd do this all the time, only when I open a project that I started with EZd1. HTH
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/31 18:42:44
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☄ Helpfulby John 2015/04/02 00:27:00
Here's two screenshots to help you find the Sonar Option: First the Menu button:  Then the drop down menu:  If you don't see that option in your EZD2 version, then you are NOT using the latest version.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/03/31 22:47:20
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First of all, thanks very much. Secondly, I went to the website and downloaded the latest version and the updates and applied them. That is very weird. I will back to Toontrack and see if I can figure it out. Thanks again for taking the time to do this! EDIT: On the Toontrack site, Version 2.0.2 is the most recent version I see. Konrad
post edited by konradh - 2015/03/31 22:54:38
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 07:02:50
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konradh First of all, thanks very much. Secondly, I went to the website and downloaded the latest version and the updates and applied them. That is very weird. I will back to Toontrack and see if I can figure it out. Thanks again for taking the time to do this! EDIT: On the Toontrack site, Version 2.0.2 is the most recent version I see. Konrad
There is also an updates tab on the EZdrummer page. You should see an update there. Have you dragged the EZdrummer DLL manually to different location than where it was installed? If this is the case, it could be possible that the updated program is placing the update where it expects EZdrummer to reside. I have a suspicion that your problems may be self inflicted.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 12:14:48
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Doesn't matter. Carry on.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
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post edited by konradh - 2015/04/01 18:48:16
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 17:58:06
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konradh Self-inflicted? Care to explain that statement? I also don't understand the "Doesn't matter" comment. I always let dlls install wherever the installer puts them and I only move one if the VI can't find it. I did not move the EZD dll (or the EZMix one, for that matter.) In any case, after I install EZD2, EZD2 is there and opens, which would not happen if the dll were missing. I will withdraw my question.
Don't get frustrated. We want you to have everything working. But often its hard to fully communicate what is being thought. This is the nature of written communications. No one is trying to make it difficult for you. I truly hope it works. Lets us know if you get it working.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 18:45:06
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John, Everyone has tried to help. I'm not frustrated--just trying to understand what the thought is. Thanks.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 19:26:23
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Hallo, Mighty Konrad. Is the menu item in your EZd2 (vst in Sonar, not standalone version) not where I suggested in post #5 and #18?
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 20:10:18
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jb101, I cannot find this option anywhere. Something is wrong. I guess I will open a ticket with Toontrack. They have never responded before, but maybe they will now. :-) Thanks.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 21:51:31
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If you are running EZD2 version 2.0.2, you won't have the Sonar options. If you go to Toontrack.com and click on MY ACCOUNT at the top of the page and then go to My Products and click on the EZDrummer 2 thumbnail, it will take you to this page where you will see an Updates Tab.  Download this file and update EZdrummer 2. After the update, if you don't see version 2.1.1 at the bottom of the page then EZD2 is not where the update program expects it to be. If you still have problems, then check the version number of the standalone and the VST version and post what you find.
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 21:55:41
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Thanks, yes. I installed that update. Something obviously went wrong somewhere. I hve done this install and update twice, restoring my PC after it failed. I will try a third time. Thanks for the screenshot, though,
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Re: EZDrummer 2 Still Won't Work with Sonar
2015/04/01 22:17:55
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OK, I installed the EZD2 upgrade for the third time and this time I have Sonar options and EZD does not seem to be messing up my Ins/Outs. Each time before I had installed the EZD 2.0.2 package followed by the update. I don't know what is different this time, but things seem to be OK. Thanks.
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