skinnybones lampshade
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EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
Hi all, I've been really enjoying X3, especially Melodyne, comping and customizing colours. It's been very interesting reading about all of your experiences, tips and opinions, too. I'm wondering whether or not it's worth it to download Addictive Drums because I just bought EZdrummer and many EZdrummer packs last month. I also own Abbey Road Drummer (60's, 70's, 80's), which I love but find take me lots of time and effort to use. I can't record very often and tend to forget any non-intuitive steps to take in set-ups, etc. I end up having to try this and that and look things up. I always get everything working eventually, but the next time, I'm likely to be back at square one (I know, I'm not the brightest bulb). So I sometimes end up frustrated and/or tired and uninspired when everything's finally all set up and I can finally play. I'd much rather still be energized and making music from a few minutes after I turn the computer on. EZdrummer fits the bill perfectly in that way, but I wonder what more experienced users think of the quality of the sound, etc.? For anybody who might know, where do you think Addictive Drums would fall in terms of sound and ease of set-up and use in comparison to EZdrummer and/or Abbey Road Drummer? Do you think it might be beneficial in some way to take the time to learn how to use it? Thanks for reading, LJ
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SvenArne
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 09:38:32
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Addictie drums load fast and there's a lot of very usable presets in there. I'd say it's as plug and play as a piece of drum software is likely to get!
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skinnybones lampshade
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 09:45:25
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Thanks for the quick response, SvenArne. That sounds promising! I was also a bit intimidated by the posts about importing drum maps and putting the information in certain locations, but I guess I could figure that out.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 09:57:48
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I have ezdrummer with quite a few add-on packs as well. I definitely recommend downloading Addictive Drums. It's pretty straight forward and very user friendly IMO.
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dwardzala
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 10:05:46
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You might also try setting up a project template with your drums all set up, that way you can load the template and you are ready to go. There is a thread in the forum where someone has provided a template and drum for Addictive Drums (haven't tried it yet). I don't get to record very often either, and I find that the project template allows me to get to the creative part very quickly.
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SteveStrummerUK
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 10:51:16
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From my short time experimenting with Addictive Drums, I would say absolutely go for it. It's very intuitive, and the samples that come bundled with the X3 version are very good indeed. I would say that sound-wise, it's definitely on a par with my Steven Slate stuff and my EZ Drummer kits and expansion packs. I don't think it's quite the match as yet for Superior Drummer 2, arguably quality-wise, but definitely not in terms of sophistication. Once you've installed Addictive Drums, you might not find anything in it that's necessarily 'better' than EZ Drummer, but you'll certainly find some excellent and very useable sounds in there. And the control you get over the various sounds in AD is definitely more sophisticated than EZD.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 10:54:16
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It's included as part of the upgrade so I say go for it and try it out for yourself :) We've used it here and we love it.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 11:02:25
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I would add that how I've been 'experimenting' is by opening a few projects in which I've used either EZD or Superior and then using the (excellent) Replace Synth command to drop AD in to play the MIDI. In one unfinished song, I actually kept it there as it fits the song better than the Superior Kit I was using. And as Andrew says, it's included so there's no reason not to try it out - as I say, it's not so much a question of whether it's 'better' than EZ or not, but it is different, and offers you some great new options.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 11:17:47
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I would also like to recommend you to take a look at expanding your midi drum pattern with groovemonkee.com. I bought a couple packs of drum pattern to use with Cakewalk's session drummer months ago. End up that the same pattern is also available in Addictive Drum format and can be seen in AD's own browser.
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skinnybones lampshade
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 11:40:50
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Thanks very much to all of you for taking the time to reply. The consensus seems to be to go for it, so I will! I'll also try to make a project template and check out groovemonkee.com. See you later and cheers, LJ
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 12:25:47
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I also have ezdrummer with quite a few add-on packs as well as BFD2 and a couple of expansions. Looking forward to some additional sounds - and the interface looks good too.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 12:48:22
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I have EZDrummer and a number of add-on packs. I love it and it sounds great. The shortcomings are that you cannot mix drums from different sets, or tune the drums. If you have EZ you know this: this is just for comparison to other virtual drummers.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 13:15:12
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I have the other drum samplers as well & like DAW's they all have their perks or shortcomings. For myself AD really shines when using multiple outs & mixing them using other plugins. (I get good results using Waves SSL, CLA & PhoenxVerb on Amb-OH / Room.) He also offers freebies every so often with ad & midi paks promo & sales. For free AD is a no-brainer & very usable for projects. Route all your different drum samplers then save to project or track templates for easy setup & access.
post edited by carl - 2013/10/02 13:22:41
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 13:20:54
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 13:32:53
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meh
Sonar X3 with Addictive Drums - everything you need (Templates, Maps etc. ) http://ge.tt/4mjHdSt/v/0
Looks interesting, but sadly this link isn't working Michael.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 14:34:36
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SteveStrummerUK
meh
Sonar X3 with Addictive Drums - everything you need (Templates, Maps etc. ) http://ge.tt/4mjHdSt/v/0
Looks interesting, but sadly this link isn't working Michael. Link is working here...once on that site click on the word download
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 14:38:23
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Thanks for checking that for me, but I just get a white screen with IE10 and Chrome. I suppose it might be a location-sensitive restricted access thing for us in the UK.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 15:12:32
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SteveStrummerUK Thanks for checking that for me, but I just get a white screen with IE10 and Chrome. I suppose it might be a location-sensitive restricted access thing for us in the UK.
I'm in the UK and the link is ok for me (iE10) John
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 16:21:05
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Thanks for checking John. I've got it now, but I had to boot up my old PC to do so. Very strange.
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 17:00:15
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EzDrummer sounds excellent, and usually with little or no tweaking. I own EZD + several additional kits, Superior Drummer + a couple of add-ons, BFD Eco, Session Drummer, Addictive Drums, Battery 4 and 2 N.I. Studio Drummer Kits. For the money I've spent on drum VI's I could have taken wife on a very nice vacation. But when it comes down to it which do I really use? It's almost always Ez or Superior Drummer. That said, I think Addictive Drums sounds great, is easy to use and has good expansion capabilities. It's certainly plenty enough to add high quality drum tracks to your song without feeling the need to make excuses about the sound. IMHO it's easily the most useful 3rd party plugin offered in Sonar X3.
post edited by twoifbysea - 2013/10/02 17:07:51
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 18:23:18
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What a nice group of people populates this forum! Thanks again for all the valuable advice. I only wish I had the expertise to offer the same in return. Well, I could offer it, but I pity anyone who took it
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Re: EZdrummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/10/02 19:29:09
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twoifbysea For the money I've spent on drum VI's I could have taken wife on a very nice vacation. But when it comes down to it which do I really use?
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