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2014/06/09 15:59:42 (permalink)

Early Winter Mix

This time around I've got a short classical piece for piano and strings.   I haven't done anything like this in, well, probably a few years.   So I'm curious to see how the strings in particular translate (GPO + KH Solo Strings 1). 
 
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Hi all,
Thanks to everyone's comments I've just uploaded version two: https://soundcloud.com/st...hi/early-winter-mix-v2
It's still not exactly as I hear it in my head, but I think that it should be somewhat an improvement.
 
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/09 18:09:27 (permalink)
    Nice piece! Excellent playing and mix sounds good. Overall the strings sound pretty good ,there were a couple of spots when you were doing the fast runs that I thought they were losing the realism but overall they sounded pretty good!
    What it really needs is a steel guitar! (just kidding!)
     
    edit: Oh yeah piano sounded good too!
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/09 19:27:41 (permalink)
    Thanks, Monty!  I know what you mean about the fast runs - that's a technique I'll have to work on.  I think I also need to work on getting the high violin parts to sit within the mix better, though that's a harder one for me to tell for sure. 
     
    But regarding the pedal steel, you didn't catch those parts?  They're all over the place!  No, really.   
     
    FWIW, the piano is AK and Eighty Eight layered together.   That combination just seems to work for me.
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 02:16:00 (permalink)
    Very interesting piece. There are some passages in there that I really like. :) The piano sounds pretty real, as does the cello. The main problems are the higher string and the violin leg parts, they need a lot of work. Good luck. :)

     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 08:03:51 (permalink)
    Thanks, Gus!    Yeah, I think I've got some homework to do for getting the violin parts to gel more like the real thing.  I may even swap out GPO in those instances since I think it may be more "metallic" in the higher registers than KH strings.     Onward.   

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 12:17:11 (permalink)
    Very nice. Sounds great.

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 13:02:23 (permalink)
    Interesting piece and composition I sure you know what it needs.
     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 13:29:27 (permalink)
    Thanks, Chas!
     
    Thanks, Wookie.  I have some ideas, but I suppose I'll have to see at what level they pan out...    (bad DAW humour)
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 15:51:44 (permalink)
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    Thanks, Chas!
     
    Thanks, Wookie.  I have some ideas, but I suppose I'll have to see at what level they pan out...    (bad DAW humour)
     


    Well I chuckled :)
     

     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 17:24:53 (permalink)
    Then my job here is done.     
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 20:34:15 (permalink)
    I smiled to, trouble with all this fur and Wookiee smiling is you just cant tell if I am grinning or growling

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/10 23:08:09 (permalink)
    classical with a little jazz feel?

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/11 07:43:30 (permalink)
    @Wookie - It looks like a smile to me.    My, what large teeth you have...
     
    @Robbie - sure, classical jazz works.  Huh, now there's a genre to explore.
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/11 14:15:45 (permalink)
    I enjoyed listening to this Steve. Very well played! I also thought the strings were a little artificial in a few places but overall it was nice....one technique that sometimes works is adding some verb to it . I could hear that you did add some but maybe a bit more on those strings. 

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/11 14:59:04 (permalink)
    Thanks, Tim!   I am still working on this one, so perhaps I'll try a little more reverb just for those violin parts as well - I hadn't really thought about that.
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/12 12:10:57 (permalink)
    Sound nice to me and almost realistic. I love these kind of creations, especially when they are done with feeling and conviction. Nicely done!!
     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/12 12:47:34 (permalink)
    Steve,
     
    As a composition and performance I really like this piece.  I agree with the comments regarding the realism of the string, but they still work fine.   Unless you have LA Scoring Strings, Symphobia, Hollywood Strings, etc.. you really have to work on tweaking the sounds to get there.   GPO isn't bad, just requires a bit more work.  
     
    Anyway, cool composition and really well done.
     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/12 13:21:40 (permalink)
    @John - Thanks!  I appreciate the "feeling and conviction" comment as that is the approach I am going for.  Hopefully version 2 will add just a little more of the same!
     
    @ Mark - Thank you!  For me composition has to come first with this type of music, so I'm happy to know that's making it across.   I'm still making some changes on this one for velocity, pitch and volume, so I'm hoping the additional detail will come through in the next version.    One can hope.  
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/14 18:57:19 (permalink)
    Well, I'm on tenterhooks waiting for Early Winter mkII

     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/15 09:51:28 (permalink)
    Nice playing and arranging.  

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/16 22:22:21 (permalink)
    @Gus - thanks, me too.    It's been slow going recently due to other commitments (aka, life) but I hope to get back to it soon.
     
    @Jimmy - thanks!  It was nice doing something more orchestrated.  Now all I need to do is finish it...
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/17 15:53:28 (permalink)
    And.... version two posted (link at top).
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/17 18:40:28 (permalink)
    Thanks, Phil!
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/22 10:29:50 (permalink)
    pleasant music .. I liked the beautiful tune and arrangement


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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/24 14:57:20 (permalink)
    Thanks, Makke!   
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/26 13:56:57 (permalink)
    hey steve
    listening to ver 2.  really nice composition, great playing
     
    love the dynamics in this!
     
    I might back off of the reverb just a tad on the piano
     
    this is really good stuff!  love it!

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/26 14:39:20 (permalink)
    Very nice Steve! The faster runs get a little blurry, but that may be the sample set. I like my piano a little brighter, but otherwise this sounds very nice!
     
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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/27 14:02:39 (permalink)
    @Reece - Thanks!  I appreciate the feedback.  I'm glad that the dynamics came across as I did want to have some ebb & flow throughout.  I was also messing with the piano in bits and pieces so may have left it a little too distant.
     
    @Dan - and again...  thanks!  Your comment about the piano does seem to line up with Reece's so it probably could be a little more "close mic'd".   And yeah... the faster runs were tough to get articulated the way I wanted so at the end of the day I settled for what I had.  At some point I should probably learn a little more about these libraries. 
     

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    Re: Early Winter Mix 2014/06/28 15:11:12 (permalink)
    Very nice composition, arrangement, and playing on this.  Yea, there might be a couple of spots with the strings as mentioned above but it sounds very good.
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