Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset

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Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset

If I cycle the power on a USB MIDI device, the process to get Sonar to reopen the device driver is pretty arcane.
 
Due to an interaction between my motherboard and my drum brain (Megadrum FWIW) that is too tedious to get into, I need to cycle the brain after every boot of the machine.  Unfortunately, I usually remember to do this after I have started Sonar and I have to deal with wonky dialogs and the clicking about needed to get Sonar and the brain playing nicely again.
 
In Studio One, I open Options->External Devices, select Megadrum and hit Reconnect.
 
It would be nice if Sonar could handle this a bit more gracefully.  Let the use case be that the user is working on a tune and has a USB Keyboard controller that is accidentally unplugged.

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    Scoot
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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2014/12/01 11:08:27 (permalink)
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    Agreed, I have 3 USB ports,
    Soundcard
    Fan base and mouse
    Nanopad
     
    When I want to put a file on a USB drive I disconnect the Nanopad. Later I turn on sonar and realise I forgot to plug the nanopad back in. If I have been doing something under a blank setting, I then have to save it, just to plug the nanopad back in.
     
    The other day my soundcard was recognised on midi, but not on audio, so I had to turn off sonar and re-connect the soundcard

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2014/12/07 06:44:05 (permalink)
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    I think some of that may have to do with how Windows approaches USB-connected devices, but yeah - it would be nice if that would work better.
     
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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/03/04 06:57:55 (permalink)
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    My issue here with sleeping my laptop would be easier with a way for Sonar to re-scan for Midi and Audio Devices, when my Soundcard is awoken
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...-m3134182.aspx#3185433
     
    Also Laptops are generally short on outputs, my 3 share mouse, PadKontrol and soundcard. I would be nice to be able to swap over USB devices without closing Sonar down.

     
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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/03/04 08:50:17 (permalink)
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    Good suggestion!
     
    This is the first time I've tried this since X3 or SPlat.  After responding to this, I noticed Sonar running and my Graphite 49 switched off.
     
    I powered up the G49 and SPlat popped up a dialog asking if I wanted the device added to Sonar, with a warning that the transport would be stopped if it happened to be running.
     
    I selected OK and everything worked great.
     
    I'm leaving my vote in case this isn't robust ... this sure is a refreshing from the old days.
     
    post edited by BobF - 2015/03/04 08:59:35

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 05:20:46 (permalink)
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    When I power on my Korg PadKontrol (USB) with Sonar running, I have no message, and I must restart Sonar. Is it normal? Why some devices are recognized and some require restart? Does anybody know about it?
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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 05:32:22 (permalink)
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    I have always had it prompt, but may take several seconds. Even though it is recognized, I will often close/open SONAR to ensure routing isn't altered. I have had weird routing issues that have trained me to start SONAR last.

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 05:35:08 (permalink)
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    I think some of that may have to do with how Windows approaches USB-connected devices, but yeah - it would be nice if that would work better.
     
    Bob Bone

     
    I don't see issues with other windows software. It's basically because Sonar does not handle it gracefully.

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 06:18:41 (permalink)
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    I have always had it prompt, but may take several seconds.

    If I add virtual midi driver I have message, if I switch PadKontrol on, I have nothing.
    mettelus
    Even though it is recognized, I will often close/open SONAR to ensure routing isn't altered. I have had weird routing issues that have trained me to start SONAR last.

    Yeah, it's just crazy, how Sonar handles midi devices.
    You can't enable and disable USB devices, or change Midi Input Devices settings, or all your projects would be messed up. It's awful, disgusting...
    It seems that I should buy ac adapter and use midi cable, as I do with my midi keyboard, or leave PadKontrol always on, what I don't like.
    And that is because Sonar's support for USB Midi devices is dysfunctional.
    post edited by Adq - 2015/09/03 06:27:34
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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 08:08:42 (permalink)
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    I'm not saying that Sonar couldn't use a little improvement here, but part of the challenge is the way Windows manages USB devices.

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 08:13:17 (permalink)
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    BobF
    I'm not saying that Sonar couldn't use a little improvement here, but part of the challenge is the way Windows manages USB devices.


    I notice most seem to have met that challenge :)

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 08:50:38 (permalink)
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    Sorry to jump in, but I'd love a fan base plugged into a USB port, preferably one that comes to my gigs :-)
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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/09/03 10:49:36 (permalink)
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    To add to what the Doktor had to say, this is much less about something wonky with the operating system and much more about a crummy UI. They clearly know when devices are coming and going, it's a matter of acknowledging that devices will come and go during a session and creating a UI that manages it well.
     
    That pop up dialog should be burned along with the rest of the 90's memorabilia. I have no doubt that they can do much, much better. 

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    Re: Easily Reconnect to USB MIDI devices that have been reset 2015/12/04 00:24:42 (permalink)
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    Same issue.  It's one of the reasons I procrastinate before starting a project.  I dread fussing with all the connections.
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