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Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
Hi, While in development of a control surface plugin, I was working with sucking the brains out of the control surface as a sysex dump for backup. When it seemed Sonar was not sending my plug DLL the incoming sysex from the surface I moused around and found Echo Sysex in Preferences MIDI.... That fixed it but doesn't seem to work unless a project is loaded. That is a bit of a Pita. Confirm, deny or give me a workaround? 
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/24 13:09:18
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In a multiport MIDI environment, SONAR needs a project with at least one MIDI track in it to know which MIDI input(s) to echo, and to which output it should echo each input in use, so it make sense to me that it echoes nothing with no project loaded.
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/24 13:12:45
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Thanks for the reply!
I works even if I load a project with nothing but one audio track loaded. No synths even.
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/24 13:38:55
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That's interesting. So it echoes SysEx from all inputs to all outputs? I guess being "exclusive" by device ID, that would be okay, but it seems like it would unecessarily clog up ports with SysEx that most devices don't need to see.
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/24 15:00:01
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There is a check box to echo sysex, then I can specify a port to send it out on.
I wish that It would not require a file to be loaded to work as I will have to include this extra "outside" step in my documentation when I have most everything else elegantly (more or less) automated.
BTW: do you use a BCR2000 or two down there?
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/24 16:32:30
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Nice to see the colorado sonarites helping eahc other out hehe. Ill be in Colorado for a fishing trip vacation late late August! :)
They seem to like us Californians better than Texans haha
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/24 18:17:33
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We don't care where you're from so much as long as you bring money and leave it here. 
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/25 11:50:05
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bitman
There is a check box to echo sysex, then I can specify a port to send it out on.
I wish that It would not require a file to be loaded to work as I will have to include this extra "outside" step in my documentation when I have most everything else elegantly (more or less) automated.
BTW: do you use a BCR2000 or two down there? Okay. I forget about the option to set the output port. I haven't done much with SysEx for a while, and when I did, I usually loaded it into the SONAR project and had the project send it. Just out of curiosity, what's the SysEx for in your case? I have just one BCF2000, but have not been using it that much lately, as desk space is at a premium in my current setup. Plus the BCF View app seems to have stopped working in Win7 at some point. I can get along without it, but every time I fired up the BCF, I couldn't resist spending 30 minutes trying to get BCF View working, which would take me out of the music-making zone.
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/25 12:15:03
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@Brundelfly, Within my CS plugin property page, I have facilities to backup the CS current setup before overwriting the CS setup with the setup that is required for the CS plugin to do all the cool things it can now do. So I am invoking a full dump and getting it, but Sonar X1 needs a file, any file loaded for the sysex to be sent to the plugin's MidiInLongMessage() method. I wish that wasn't so.
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Re:Echo Sysex requires a project to be loaded in order to work!?
2011/07/25 12:50:03
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So the CS plug-in (not familiar with it) is running standalone - not needing a project open to be loaded?
I think I have not had enough coffee yet today to follow this, but yes, if you need SONAR to echo SysEx with no project loaded, it appears you are out of luck for the time being.
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