Edirol 64bit Driver

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2005/11/04 21:10:01 (permalink)

Edirol 64bit Driver

I was checking out the Edirol Firewire Audio Interfaces and seen that they have 64bit drivers for their units. Sounds like Edirol is keeping up with Sonar.

http://www.edirol.net/news/en/
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    BluerecordingStudios
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/05 01:50:19 (permalink)
    64 drivers are made also for EDIROL UA 1000. This brand always keeping up with Sonar nad because of that, I have it.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/05 08:11:40 (permalink)

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    64 drivers are made also for EDIROL UA 1000. This brand always keeping up with Sonar nad because of that, I have it.


    Thanks for the tip. I may get a UA-1000 after checking out the specs. I was planning on using my Roland M-1000 for my interface since I'm new to Sonar & PC recording in general but the drivers kept bombing Win XP Home SP2.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/05 22:02:10 (permalink)
    I second the positive experience with the UA-1000.



    Regards,
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/05 22:10:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ByronSanto


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    64 drivers are made also for EDIROL UA 1000. This brand always keeping up with Sonar nad because of that, I have it.


    Thanks for the tip. I may get a UA-1000 after checking out the specs. I was planning on using my Roland M-1000 for my interface since I'm new to Sonar & PC recording in general but the drivers kept bombing Win XP Home SP2.



    I would not recommend the UA-1000. Yes it is a good unit and the 64-bit drivers are nice but for audio USB2 is completely inferior to firewire. There is a reason why most of the better units are all firewire.

    Go with the firewire unit.


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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 04:04:59 (permalink)
    jamsession39, you are troll ,or something like that?

    Cakewalk recommends Edirol UA 1000, Edirol ships it in bundle with S5. In this case no matter USB or FireWire. Edirol is perfectly suited for USB processes. I know Firewire is better port, but I can input four UA 1000s to one comp and everything go smooth. UA 1000 reserves only about one or two percent of CPU. You can create really huge projects with a lot of effects, trust me, its great piece of audio hardware
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 04:23:26 (permalink)
    another happy ua1000 user

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    list of stuff
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 05:11:27 (permalink)
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    jamsession39, you are troll ,or something like that?

    Cakewalk recommends Edirol UA 1000, Edirol ships it in bundle with S5. In this case no matter USB or FireWire. Edirol is perfectly suited for USB processes. I know Firewire is better port, but I can input four UA 1000s to one comp and everything go smooth. UA 1000 reserves only about one or two percent of CPU. You can create really huge projects with a lot of effects, trust me, its great piece of audio hardware


    Because I don't recommend the piece of hardware you own I'm a troll?

    Listen I'm not dissing Edirol or the UA-1000. I Own an Edirol UR-80 which is only USB1.1. I have had very good results with my UR-80 and the sound quality it has produced has been very good. However, I'm planning to upgrade soon, and frankly, I would not even consider any USB device. Firewire is better and faster, period. I picked-up the UR-80 very cheaply and now I want something better.

    Sweetwater sells the Edirol UA-1000 for $729, and the Edirol FA-101 for $539. It makes absolutely no sense to recommend the UA-1000 (a discontinued model BTW) based on this pricing, over the FA-101. For $599.99 the Presonus Firepod has 8 inputs with Phantom power (the UA1000 has 4) and 24/96 recording just like the UA-1000. Believe me, they will release 64-bit drivers for the Firepod.

    I'm not saying the UA-1000 is bad (I really like Edirol products, my UR-80 has been great) it's just there are better and cheaper solutions available at the present time.

    I'm sure the UA-1000 is working well for you guys but please don't tell me you would buy it over the newer Firewire devices available if you were buying it today. Even if you don't have a firewire card in your PC they cost about $15.





    post edited by jamsession39 - 2005/11/06 05:13:14
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 06:00:46 (permalink)
    I am not sure that Firepods preamps are as good as in UA 1000 {they has some from ultra expensive roland product, now I dont know model, but search for it...}. I am not looking for cheaper but for best quality in price range. UA 1000 has no quality concurention in its price class. This is true, not discutable. And new, smaller brother UA 101, this is really what I named GREAT. UA 1000 disscontinued - what else you expect from this great one, they have stable drivers for XP and 64 {now is out 2.0 version of drivers, about month ago}.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 14:08:42 (permalink)
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    I am not sure that Firepods preamps are as good as in UA 1000 {they has some from ultra expensive roland product, now I dont know model, but search for it...}. I am not looking for cheaper but for best quality in price range. UA 1000 has no quality concurention in its price class. This is true, not discutable. And new, smaller brother UA 101, this is really what I named GREAT. UA 1000 disscontinued - what else you expect from this great one, they have stable drivers for XP and 64 {now is out 2.0 version of drivers, about month ago}.



    I'm not sure where you're getting this information regading the preamps in the Firepod.
    In this review the reviewer raves about the preamps on the firepod. I've seen and heard similar reviews on other websites and also on these message boards. I'm sure the UA-1000 has nice pre's too.

    Firepod review with sound clips

    What's wrong with the FA-101? Does the UA-101 or UA-1000 do 192KHZ sampling rates? No. Does the FA-101 yes. Why? Firewire has better data throughput.

    I mentioned price because I think the UA-1000 is overpriced compared with other units several hundred dollars cheaper. Are you telling me that Edirol uses lower quality pres in the FA-101? The description of the FA-101 says it uses premium quality pre's just like the UA-101. Why would I buy the UA-101 over the FA-101 for $10 more? With the UA-1000 you get two extra Mic pre's over the FA-101, but it won't do 192KHZ recording. For $200 more I get two extra Mic pre's. The Presonus has 8 mic pre's for less money.

    Edirol's USB2 devices are selling at a premium, presumably for people who don't have firewire and don't want to install a firewire card in their machine.

    There are more expensive units like the RME Fireface 800 and the Motu 896HD which are also excellent choices for the studio.

    You are very sensitive about the UA-1000 probably because you have 4 of them or whatever. Does this prevent you from being objective about current offerings and value for dollar? I'm sure the UA-1000 made sense to you when you bought it. To say nothing compares to the UA-1000 in it's price range is complete crap. Firepod, MOTU traveller, MOTU 828mkII, FA-101.

    I own an Edirol product so I know they have good pre's. Other people make good pre's too, so get over it.

    post edited by jamsession39 - 2005/11/06 14:09:44
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 14:16:48 (permalink)




    ORIGINAL: BluerecordingStudios
    Does the UA-101 or UA-1000 do 192KHZ sampling rates? No. Does the FA-101 yes. Why? Firewire has better data throughput.




    UA - 101 has 192 recording. First search for right info, than write something. UA 1000s sound really rocks and its not expensive for what they do. Another edirol products are as good as UA 1000, but this one is FLAGSHIP of Edirol for now. My opinion is still that firepod has not that great preamps like Edirol products.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 14:20:49 (permalink)

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    I am not sure that Firepods preamps are as good as in UA 1000 {they has some from ultra expensive roland product, now I dont know model, but search for it...}. I am not looking for cheaper but for best quality in price range. UA 1000 has no quality concurention in its price class. This is true, not discutable. And new, smaller brother UA 101, this is really what I named GREAT. UA 1000 disscontinued - what else you expect from this great one, they have stable drivers for XP and 64 {now is out 2.0 version of drivers, about month ago}.



    I'm not sure where you're getting this information regading the preamps in the Firepod.
    In this review the reviewer raves about the preamps on the firepod. I've seen and heard similar reviews on other websites and also on these message boards. I'm sure the UA-1000 has nice pre's too.

    Firepod review with sound clips

    What's wrong with the FA-101? Does the UA-101 or UA-1000 do 192KHZ sampling rates? No. Does the FA-101 yes. Why? Firewire has better data throughput.

    I mentioned price because I think the UA-1000 is overpriced compared with other units several hundred dollars cheaper. Are you telling me that Edirol uses lower quality pres in the FA-101? The description of the FA-101 says it uses premium quality pre's just like the UA-101. Why would I buy the UA-101 over the FA-101 for $10 more? With the UA-1000 you get two extra Mic pre's over the FA-101, but it won't do 192KHZ recording. For $200 more I get two extra Mic pre's. The Presonus has 8 mic pre's for less money.

    Edirol's USB2 devices are selling at a premium, presumably for people who don't have firewire and don't want to install a firewire card in their machine.

    There are more expensive units like the RME Fireface 800 and the Motu 896HD which are also excellent choices for the studio.

    You are very sensitive about the UA-1000 probably because you have 4 of them or whatever. Does this prevent you from being objective about current offerings and value for dollar? I'm sure the UA-1000 made sense to you when you bought it. To say nothing compares to the UA-1000 in it's price range is complete crap. Firepod, MOTU traveller, MOTU 828mkII, FA-101.

    I own an Edirol product so I know they have good pre's. Other people make good pre's too, so get over it.




    Back to the original post. Yes Edirol is fast out of the gate with 64-bit drivers. I wouldn't let the fact they haven't released a 64-bit driver for Firewire skew your decision to go with a USB device. I'm sure the firewire 64-bit drivers will be along very soon and firewire would be the preferred choice.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 14:30:33 (permalink)
    Probably you dont understand me. I dont prefering PORTS - USB, FW - both are great. For me is important QUALITY of device
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 15:33:14 (permalink)

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    Probably you dont understand me. I dont prefering PORTS - USB, FW - both are great. For me is important QUALITY of device


    I understand you perfectly. This is why I posted a link showing reviews indicating the quality of the Presonus firepod and also showing that the FA-101 uses "premium" mic pre's just like the UA-1000. Of course the overall quality of the device is important. The fact that you don't care what kind of port doesn't mean it doesn't affect what you can do with the device. When you have tons of tracks with plugins, etc bandwidth matters a lot. Sonar 5 seems to need a lot of resources so I would want something with more throughput. Firewire has much better sustanied data throughput and thus you will be able to keep up with Sonar 5 better in the long-run than you will with a USB2 device. If the quality of the devices are equal, it makes more sense to choose firewire, PERIOD.

    There have been plenty of posts indicating the higher CPU needs of Sonar 5. Firewire uses a peer-to-peer achitechture and uses little or no CPU resources. USB2 uses a master slave architecture and thus requires CPU involvement and resources.


    USB2 doesn't compare http://www.usb-ware.com/firewire-vs-usb.htm


    Am I missing something? Does the UA-1000 do something that not other devices in it's price range can do? Does it have better components than any other device in this range?
    What information do you have to conclusively show the sonic superiority of the UA-1000 over the FA-101, Firepod, Motu 828, etc? Just becuase you say it's better quality doesn't make it true.

    From what I've seen there are devices with higher capabilities (ie 8 pre's vs 4) or capable of higher sampling rates WITH firewire that cost about the same or less. These same devices have received praise for the AD/DA converters and mic pre's.



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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 18:19:14 (permalink)
    The information about UA 1000 quality is goes from my studio references which are very very well in Slovakia {I recorded many albums with many respected bands} Nobody in our country has better sound than I Can you believe me? Check some bands from my country and than check what I recorded on my web - compare. FA-101 has same preamps as UA 1000, but Firepod or Motu not.

    I run projects with minimum 48 tracks and about 50+ plugins - CPU shows in this setup about 60 - 70 percent. For what the hell I need FW, dude? I have FW port and use it for HDD, maybe someday for audio, but no reason to switch only for audio device
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 19:12:54 (permalink)
    Can you believe me? Check some bands from my country and than check what I recorded on my web - compare . FA-101 has same preamps as UA 1000, but Firepod or Motu not .


    The Firepod had very good preamps in the similar price range of UA-1000, which is well documented all over the internet. Tower of power recorded a live concert with it which can be listened to on the Presonus website and sounds very good. It's like arguing with a brick wall.

    Glad you're doing so well. The UA-1000 must be better than Pro Tools HD2 Excel, Neve console, SSL console, etc. Arguing with you is like a brick wall, I'm done.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/06 21:21:06 (permalink)
    I'm guessing that the preamps, A/D & D/A's in the FA-101 are the same that's in the Roland VS-2480.

    Well I'm really considering getting a FA-101 BUT I'll use my external preamps with my Lucid AD9624 A/D for critical sound sources and my Lucid DA9624 D/A to my monitors.
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/07 01:18:39 (permalink)



    Glad you're doing so well. The UA-1000 must be better than Pro Tools HD2 Excel, Neve console, SSL console, etc. Arguing with you is like a brick wall, I'm done.



    This guy is really crazy, if he thinks, that UA 1000 is better than protools, isnt he?
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/07 08:13:43 (permalink)
    Those of us not running Windows 64 Bit as in I am running Windows XP Pro Sp 2. Is there any point in loading 64 Bit drivers unles you actually have Windows 64 and secondly I have the 64 bit double precision engine ticked in my Audio Options Sonar 5 but I cannot see why I should need 64 Bit drivers for my Edirol UA-25 on a none 64 bit OS?

    Here is the Cake link to Edirol 64 Bit Drivers http://www.cakewalk.com/x64/edirolx64.asp

    Just asking the question as I assume Blue that you have Windows 64.

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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/07 16:18:56 (permalink)
    I not yet using win64 because my HP doesnt have drivers for it now. Double precission is other thing, I have it still "on". It improoves mix, can hear it...
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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/07 16:33:45 (permalink)
    Thanks Blue Oh and switching to Edirol has certainly made S5 as steady as a rock.

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    RE: Edirol 64bit Driver 2005/11/07 17:07:18 (permalink)
    For what it's worth, Edirol has never released an update to the FA-101 drivers. You can say either they got it right before release, or they're not bothering with refinement. No sign of 64 bit driver for the FA-101, either. I still like the device, though it has some limitations (I was spoiled by an unsuccessful attempt to use a MOTU 828 MKII. The 828 was GREAT, but, like I said, it was an unsuccessful attempt! :) )
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