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[Edit] Problem with Waves Plugins in SONAR
I've been experiencing a problem that I never had before I installed the Abbey Road bundle. After working on a file for a while it seems like some buffer is filling up and the more I work on a project I start getting dropouts and glitches. This has nothing to do with adding tracks. As a matter fact, I just deleted about 16 tracks from one project and right after the edit I started getting the glitchy playback, so it seems to me like it's some sort of buffer that is filling up or perhaps a memory leak? Although my ram meter looks fine, my CPU meters go considerably higher after the edit all across the board. Any ideas?
post edited by pinguinotuerto - 2016/10/23 16:17:13
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 16:28:17
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When I mute Addictive Drums 2, it's still there, but not as bad, so it seems to be related to AD2 or at least it makes it worse.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 17:26:51
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I use Waves VST3 versions exclusively and haven't had a problem since Sonar X3c. Don't have Abbey Road, but they should be using the same WaveShell. Are you running VST2 or 3? I think it's still recommended not to mix them.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 17:39:55
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Just got off phone with them. They did a cleanup of my computer including registry and I'll have to reinstall later today. I'll report back, but the problem is definitely Waves related, not SONAR's fault.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 21:27:34
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They have great support, I'm sure they'll get you sorted!
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 21:29:43
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They do, but what they had me try did not work. I have to call back tomorrow. I'll report back after I talk to them again.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 21:46:59
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I can tell that Abbey Road Plates are a hog. A few instances and crackles will happen. I don't have the bundle but you will most likely have to raise your buffer. I have an issue where the Abbey Road Plates cause the track it was on to redline and kill the sound. They sent me an updated version of the plugin which fixed it. I am sure it's the version you have. Ver 9.6.47.1 build 73594
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 21:56:24
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Mosvalve,
The culprit is indeed the plates plugin! The strange thing is that it will work fine for days and all of a sudden I start getting dropouts and glitches. This last time everything was working fine and I decided to delete 17 audio tracks that I didn't need that had plugins in them. Once I deleted the tracks, I started getting dropouts and it turned out to be the plates plugin. So although I'm using fewer resources than I was before, the plug-in seems to be malfunctioning. It really is strange. It happens also after I make changes to a project, like equing or adjusting other tracks that don't have the plate plugin.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 22:19:38
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Check to see if it is the version 9.6.47.1 build 73594. This version solved the problem I mentioned but I still have crackling issues with just a few instances of Plates.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/22 22:27:13
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I'm not in front of the computer anymore, but if that is the latest version then that's what I have because I downloaded and reinstalled everything today with the link they sent me.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/23 16:14:14
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Well, I just spent over an hour on the phone with Waves, and since the problem only happens after I make edits or changes to other tracks within a file, Waves seems to think (and I agree) that the problem is that something is getting corrupted within the session in SONAR that is affecting how the Waves plugins behave. I can run these plug-ins without issues for days and all of a sudden I make a change to a track that doesn't even have a Waves plugin and then I start getting these audio glitches. It is a strange issue and I hope that someone from Cakewalk reads this and can either PM me or post here and see what we can do.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/23 21:19:14
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If you don't have any Waves plugins in the project does this still happen? Does it happen with other plugins? Someone from Cake will need to chime in on this one. You can try opening a case but you will have a long wait for help.
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
2016/10/23 21:22:24
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Nope. This is Waves/SONAR specific. This is what Waves tech support wrote: "As we discussed, it seems that the issue occurs due to a corrupted Sonar session, as your previous edit, plus 18 drum tracks and more CPU intensive, works perfectly."
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Re: New Problem Since 09.2016
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