Edit timing for a polyphonic instrument

I have this instrument track that is polyphonic and when I use either v-vocal or audiosnap I get artifacts. Is there another way to edit polyphonic instruments, or am I missing something here?

Cut and nudge meaning split the part you want to edit and move the clip back or forward depending on what needs to be done? This won't work because the instrument for example is an organ which is continuos and so if I do that cut nudge technique, I end up with a gap where I move the clip.
 
I do have Melodyne editor and I know somehow it can edit time in polyphonic, but I don't know how. The first problem I encounter with melodyne is the way it Transfers the audio from sonar into melodyne vst, I have to play through the whole track just to get the track contents into melodyne editor vst to start the editing.

sharpdion23


Cut and nudge meaning split the part you want to edit and move the clip back or forward depending on what needs to be done? This won't work because the instrument for example is an organ which is continuos and so if I do that cut nudge technique, I end up with a gap where I move the clip.
 
I do have Melodyne editor and I know somehow it can edit time in polyphonic, but I don't know how. The first problem I encounter with melodyne is the way it Transfers the audio from sonar into melodyne vst, I have to play through the whole track just to get the track contents into melodyne editor vst to start the editing.

Melodyne Editor will probably do it.  There are tutorial video's on Celemony's site and the Manual also info on how to work with the timing tools in ME.  If you only need to edit parts of the track of you can just transfer those sections in as well to work on, you don't have to transfer the entire track.
 
Dan

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sharpdion23


Cut and nudge meaning split the part you want to edit and move the clip back or forward depending on what needs to be done? This won't work because the instrument for example is an organ which is continuos and so if I do that cut nudge technique, I end up with a gap where I move the clip.
 
I do have Melodyne editor and I know somehow it can edit time in polyphonic, but I don't know how. The first problem I encounter with melodyne is the way it Transfers the audio from sonar into melodyne vst, I have to play through the whole track just to get the track contents into melodyne editor vst to start the editing.

Melodyne Editor will probably do it.  There are tutorial video's on Celemony's site and the Manual also info on how to work with the timing tools in ME.  If you only need to edit parts of the track of you can just transfer those sections in as well to work on, you don't have to transfer the entire track.
 
Dan

I have looked at the tutorial videos on the site and I tried it out, but when I look at it there are notes here and there and I saw a video of changing the note pitch where it is supposed to be and editing the transient markers and so on will take more time than I  want to just edit the time. I use melodyne mainly for creating a choir and things like that. audiosnap takes only a few seconds to get the timing fixed and detects the transients well. It's a shame that v-vocal is only monophonic, though it does say vocal....

bitflipper


I have successfully stretched organ, bass and string parts by copying a section and using that to fill in the gap. It works if the part is continuous and you're judicious about where you cut and paste the filler sample. Fiddle with slip-edits until you can't hear the edit.

Let's say the OP has a bit of audio that's a little ahead of the beat so he splits the clip and moves it to the right 500ms, leaving a 500ms gap between the audio clips. If you were going to rejoin the split clips by this method would you slip-extend the clip as is or would you split that clip close to where the gap is so you're extending a smaller chunk of audio?

Let's say the OP has a bit of audio that's a little ahead of the beat so he splits the clip and moves it to the right 500ms, leaving a 500ms gap between the audio clips. If you were going to rejoin the split clips by this method would you slip-extend the clip as is or would you split that clip close to where the gap is so you're extending a smaller chunk of audio?

I'd copy a chunk a little longer than the gap, drop it into the blank spot and adjust the four crossfades start and stop times until I cannot hear the splice. A common trick is to line the splice point up with a snare drum hit so the drum transient masks the seam.

I've most often had to do this at the end of a song, where say the last bass guitar note fades out too quickly and disappears before the other instruments have stopped. In that scenario, I like to split the clip right before the last note and insert a reverb as a clip effect. Rather than rely on the reverb tail length, I'll use a longer tail than needed and use a slip-edit on the clip to adjust the length of the note more precisely.