King Conga
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Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
I usually do these kinds of edits in Audition 1.5, but since it's 32Bit, and doesn't play nice in 64Bit environs, and I can't have both Sonar, and Audition running at the same time or I get BSOD. So I'd like to find the best, or closest preset that can deal with "P" plosives, and sweeten the saturation on "S"'s so it sounds like "kiss", instead of "shout". Tanx, KC
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2012/12/31 12:32:21
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There is a De-esser in the VX-64 Vocal Strip if your version of Sonar has it.
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King Conga
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2012/12/31 12:50:49
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I do NOT have that feature.
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2013/01/01 11:39:16
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There's always the old-school method, which is more work than a de-esser plugin but more effective and will work in situations where a conventional filtered compressor does not. I'm talking about the method in which you clone the vocal track, apply extreme filtering and compression and use that as the sidechain input to a compressor on the vocal track or bus. KC, if you have Producer you have two bundled de-essers: the VocalStrip and the VC-64 Vintage Channel plugins. If you have the Studio edition, I think you may have to resort to third-party solutions if you want the simplicity of a de-esser plugin. The free Spitfish might work for you, although it's not entirely reliable. A better solution would be a compressor that features a bandpass filter in the sidechain. Personally, I use FabFilter's Pro-C for most of my de-essing needs. However, a much less-expensive alternative is Klanghelm's DC8C.
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2013/01/01 18:18:53
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Since everyone should have Celemony's Melodyne by now (I got Melodyne Essentials the other day for $39), I thought that this video showed an interesting way to deal with the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc824v_HEKY
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2013/01/02 12:57:08
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Since everyone should have Celemony's Melodyne by now (I got Melodyne Essentials the other day for $39), I thought that this video showed an interesting way to deal with the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc824v_HEKY
And . . . . if you don't have Melodyne, V-Vocal will allow this same technique. (reducing the volume of consonants)
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2013/01/03 15:01:31
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V-Vocal was once my primary tool for de-essing, because it's so easy and precise. But I eventually abandoned that approach due to the likelihood of artifacts. And if you're going to go to the trouble of isolating clips in order to avoid running the entire vocal track through V-V, it's just as much work to use volume automation.
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Re:Editing Plosives & D-Essing in 8.5.3
2013/01/03 15:54:15
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Plosives should really have been addressed as part of the tracking phase by using a pop filter/screen, rather than leaving it until mixing.
Any chance of getting the part re-sung?
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