Editing audio wave files in Sonar X1 PE

SONAR does not have that kind of wave editing built in. It's possible to change the amplitude of individual samples by zooming in selecting one sample, and using Process > Gain, but that's pretty awkward.

I'm not sure why you can't run Wavelab under Win7, but If you have an audio editor installed in the same environment as SONAR, you can integrate it so you can open clips for editing directly from SONAR.

You might get lucky and find a place in the song where the bassist hits a note with identical pitch/length which doesn't clip, and copy/paste it over the offending notes. Use the split function to isolate the bad notes and delete them.

Work on a copy of the track!

My take on this is that it is really quite easy and effective to integrate a 3rd-party audio editor into SONAR (see screenshot), and then you get the benefit of the years of development and advanced editing features available in those applications, leaving the Bakers to focus on adding/improving the bread and butter features of SONAR.

Even just providing the basic functionality of dragging sample amplitudes in SONAR would be a pretty major development undertaking, I think, and not worth the effort at this point as far as I'm concerned.

I will use the following method for issues like that. As Bristol Jonesy said above. 

First, clone the track. Work on the cloned track and mute the original.  Find the same note elsewhere in the track and split  it out, then delete the "bad note" and copy and paste the new one in. Zoom in as needed and you can very often make a totally seamless edit. 

Depending too on what else is going on in the other tracks, minor imperfections in the edit will be totally hidden if it's not a perfect match/edit. 

I removed some pretty loud string squeaks from my most current project in several places. I zoomed in and used envelopes to kill the squeaks. The tracks solo show evidence that there was an envelope edit right on the squeak. The squeak is gone,  and soloed, you can hear the split second hole. However, in the mix with the other tracks, you can not hear it. 

Thanks. yeah I've done these many times. It's a great reason to have WaveLab. 

This particular track was a compilation of songs or medley they were doing. Out of 15 minutes it had a few ticks. Irritating, but I zoomed in and could see (knew) what it was.

All the levels and inputs were fine, plus we used an Avalon 737 compressor and another type of hw limiter/gate. I can't recall what it was. I didn' track the bass. Anyway we use a Focusrite LM56 interface w extra I/O expander. The gear is fine.

Sometimes digital just does this to be a "butt".  My bud gets these on his i7 Mac and Apogee rack interface too. Nature of the beast. Ticked (pun intended) him off his hardware did that, but such is life in digital world.

Oddly enough, never experienced a sample hiccup (what I call them) on my VS2480. Not once in as many years and recording a ton of live bands, and using every track. That machine isn't even close in processing power to most home pc's. Computer Daw's.. I'm used to sample hiccups, and that's why I have WaveLab... for that, and mic/hp bleed that you can't fix with gating/expanders.. export> Soundbooth or WaveLab. Select, Insert silence.. done. Easier and not as taxing on the system since you remedy the actual file.

I just heard another tell me the newer X1 had the waveform redraw feature. I knew 853 didn't, but I didn't sweat it. X1 Exp is still pretty cool.

FWIW I only edit these in standalone, same with Melodyne if I fix a note or two. Things are more stable this way.

It just throws me Sonar still does not have this simple redraw option. Other daws have had it for years.

I've been using Sonar since V4, and I just scratch my head they'd rather user crossfades and volume envelopes. Makes no sense to have the same tools for envelope edits but not an available audio edit mode. How hard could it be? really.

Just aggravates me to have to export tracks to fix simple audio wav. 

One of the things that turned me onto X1 was the "browser" lol. Now its a little less navigation at least to insert those files I do fix in WL/SB etc..

I think its overdue Sonar adds an audio wav editing "pen" tool. No third party anything required. 

Copying and pasting, finding a note and blending it in is an option, but it would be 1000x easier with simple audio edit feature. 

We can edit midi, and draw envelops all day. Sampling Ticks are part of digital equipment, daws and have been. So should a pen tool to fix those things. I get not everyone can draw with a mouse, but what we're talking here is so miniscule, and such an easy correction with the provided tool function should not damage the original track even if you were less experienced and decided not to copy the bad track to make edits..

Maybe in the next round.