Editing multiple or All tracks at once

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2016/10/14 20:33:17 (permalink)

Editing multiple or All tracks at once

Sometimes I am working on a music and I would like to repeat a portion of the music multiple times (lets say a two bars segment that includes all the tracks).  I find that in Sonar I have difficulty doing this as there doesn't seem to be an official way of doing this.. I select regions and clips by hand and CTRL-Drag them sideways and often this creates problems and overlaps etc... Is there a way to select ALL THE TRACKS for a specific length and say: "Duplicate this portion 8 times at this point while pushing back material past the insert point accordingly" ? It would be so helpfull,,, In ProTools, doing this is so easy! If I select a portion in the upper control bar, it selects all the tracks at this portion. I then go anywhere I want, click again in the upper control bar and this selects an insert point on All the Tracks. I then do "CTRL D" (Duplicate) 8 times and Voila!... In Sonar I haven found how too achieve this efficiently..
 
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    bitman
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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/14 20:43:13 (permalink)
    I think I do like so:
     
    Select all,
    Then by sweeping along the timeline I select the section I want or use from here to here in the menu instead. Copy that and always paste special. ;-)
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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/14 21:54:36 (permalink)
    Thank you for the answer but the copy Special has a huge bug when you select "Slide over old to make room". Selecting "Slide over old to make room" is supposed to push old data forward past the editing point, thus "Keeping Intact" the rest of the song... but I tried it "Paste Special" many times while selecting "Slide over old to make room", and the data past the edit point gets mangled and cut up without any logic... I am suprised that Sonar programmers have done such a sloppy job on this...
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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/15 04:01:52 (permalink)
    The best way is to set the Now time marker where you want the material duplicated, Select All (ctrl + a), S for Split, then go Project Insert Time/Measures to insert however many blank measures you want.
     
    Then you can just copy & paste existing material into the hole created.
     
    You might have to split the material to be pasted at the start & end points of your selection.

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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/15 18:19:18 (permalink)
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    The best way is to set the Now time marker where you want the material duplicated, Select All (ctrl + a), S for Split, then go Project Insert Time/Measures to insert however many blank measures you want.
     
    Then you can just copy & paste existing material into the hole created.
     
    You might have to split the material to be pasted at the start & end points of your selection.


    Thank you so much, you gave me a good "work around" solution. But the fact remains that the "Slide over old to make room" option is not working correctly
    I will contact bug report
     
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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/16 00:14:22 (permalink)
    I'll agree that copy paste of sections of even a straight up midi only project sucks.. As the OP say's you get unpredictable results . It should be logical and easy to do. 
    Drag and copy, put the now time on the measure line you want, and paste ( x amount of times) move over and make room.. What always happens to me is a big mess with only some tracks moving and then stuff hidden underneath the paste, so you get a cacophony of sound.  Sometimes it works ,, but often it doesn't.  
    I generally write it off as just me not knowing what I'm doing , but still it would seem a basic function that could certainly be a little more user friendly. I swear it was easier back in 6- 7 and 8.5 

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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/16 05:58:21 (permalink)
    Wonder if we'll see Ripple Editing before Christmas?

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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/16 11:03:46 (permalink)
    Ripple delete isn't for insertions though, unless CW changed the scope of what that feature will be.

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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/16 22:31:45 (permalink)
    is there a bug report thread? What is the simplest way to report a bug?
     
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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/17 01:41:28 (permalink)
    I wish the bakers would take this thread to heart... it is a longstanding issue for many and makes the creative aspects of arranging/rearranging very frustrating/challenging...
     
    It might help get their interest if you appended to your title, "is all screwed up!!!"

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    Re: Editing multiple or All tracks at once 2016/10/17 02:18:52 (permalink)
    The Slide Over to Make Room issue is so enduring it has a permanent place of honor in the ReadMe as a known issue; no need to re-report it. You just need to make your own hols in advance with Cut/Paste, Slide or Insert Measures.
     
    For future reference, Problem Reporter is here:
     
         http://www.cakewalk.com/S...Contact/Problem-Report

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