JasonBanz
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Effects not working
Hi,
I'm a noob to the computer recording and purchased MC5 a few weeks ago. I have a UA-1G usb interface to go along with it. When I am trying to record a guitar track and go to the effects, and attempt to use amplitube, no effects comes out, just clean guitar. I also tried to use the hardcore effects package and that didn't work either. When I am not using MC5 and use the effect from my start up menu they work just fine. Any ideas? Thanks!!
Jason
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/17 15:09:27
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Be sure the ECHO INPUT is switched in the channel control area......and some interfaces have a switch on them as well to silence the input from the monitor path and allow you to hear the output of the channel.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/17 15:13:19
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Welcome to the forum.
Are you inserting the effects into the effects bin of a track? How are you trying to use the effects?
Have the VSTs been scanned by the Plug-in Manager and have they been recognized?
Note: you must register Amplitube seperately from MC 5 or a noise will occur until it's registered, but that shouldn't matter in this case; it should still work, noisily.
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JasonBanz
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/19 18:11:28
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Tried everything with no luck, and my amplitube is registered. I've e-mailed tech support, maybe they can give a good answer. When I run my effects rig straight through to the computer it sounds terrible because I have no amp head to run it through at the moment.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/19 19:55:02
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Just to recap...
The guitar goes straight into the audio input on the interface. The input is set to an audio track and you can hear it just fine...
Now, right click in the FX bin of the audio track and select insert audio effect.... choose the Amplitude, and it shows up in the FX bin, now you choose an amp and speaker and all teh other stuff.
Now click the echo button and play..... you should hear the guitar.
Record a few measures of music..... play back..... what do you hear?
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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JasonBanz
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 06:25:12
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Nevermind, the problem was fixed. The reason the echo button wasn't working was because I did not have the guitar armed for recording. Problem is now solved! Thanks alot for all your help!
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 08:27:56
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doh..... (slaps forehead)......  That's all part of the learning process.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 08:58:18
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JasonBanz
Nevermind, the problem was fixed. The reason the echo button wasn't working was because I did not have the guitar armed for recording. Problem is now solved! Thanks alot for all your help!
I think you should be able to hear the effect even if the track is not armed for recording, if input echo is on. I'll heve to check that, though. I usually use my amp's effects, not Cakewalk's.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 09:10:08
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I've never been comfortable with the sims..... some people love them. I use a POD, but I want to start experimenting with miked guitars to see how I like the sound.
At times the POD is just too..... can't quite think of the word..... but it's not raw enough?
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 09:56:03
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According to the Help files, you shouldn't have to arm the track to hear effects and softsynths; just clicking the input echo button is all you should have to do.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 11:19:57
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57Gregy
According to the Help files, you shouldn't have to arm the track to hear effects and softsynths; just clicking the input echo button is all you should have to do.
from a recorded track, I've never had to use the input echo button on playback. this statement you're saying from the help files seems odd to me.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 12:09:00
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The statement is odd to you, and this from a flying dog with really big ears!?!?!?
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 12:15:35
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Robomusic
The statement is odd to you, and this from a flying dog with really big ears!?!?!?
then the statement must be pretty frickin odd, huh? 
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 15:33:34
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Ya know there are lots of ODD things these days!
'specially wif the things that roll around in my head!
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 15:51:24
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not gonna go there..... not gonna go there.... 
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/21 19:32:05
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Don't take it lying down! .......
Next time i check he will be flying again!
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 00:16:16
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Hi, Beagle and everyone.
The OP stated above (post 6) that the reason the input echo didn't work is because he didn't arm the track first. When he armed the track, input echo worked. I've never had to arm the track first in order to hear DX or VST effects or synths. Just clicking the input echo button worked.
Maybe I misunderstood?
Entirely possible; It's been a rough week...
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 08:10:18
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I agree Greg... the times I have used the sims I have been able to hear the disto guitar...I also hear the clean sound. On playback I only get the disto-guitar.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 11:50:33
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Ok, I was wrong, I didn't have to have the track armed, but I had my headphones plugged into my UA-1G not the computer. That's why I wasn't hearing anything when I armed the track the first time. You are correct, the track does not have to be armed. Now how do I get rid of the delay between the strum and it hitting the track?
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:10:18
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57Gregy
Hi, Beagle and everyone.
The OP stated above (post 6) that the reason the input echo didn't work is because he didn't arm the track first. When he armed the track, input echo worked. I've never had to arm the track first in order to hear DX or VST effects or synths. Just clicking the input echo button worked.
Maybe I misunderstood?
Entirely possible; It's been a rough week...
greg - no I understand that, but your statement here: 57Gregy
According to the Help files, you shouldn't have to arm the track to hear effects and softsynths; just clicking the input echo button is all you should have to do.
that's what I said was odd. I have never had to click the INPUT ECHO button during playback to hear FX working. if you're just playing the project, not recording, then I don't understand why you have to hit the INPUT ECHO button in order to hear the FX, that doesn't make sense to me and it really doesn't make sense that the help files would tell us to do that since INPUT ECHO is a function of echoing the track with FX for recording.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:12:22
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JasonBanz
Ok, I was wrong, I didn't have to have the track armed, but I had my headphones plugged into my UA-1G not the computer. That's why I wasn't hearing anything when I armed the track the first time. You are correct, the track does not have to be armed. Now how do I get rid of the delay between the strum and it hitting the track?
you're trying to use 2 different soundcards at the same time. you can't do that. plug your headphonse BACK into the UA-1G and let's set up MC so that you're using ONLY the UA-1G for playback and recording instead. go to OPTIONS>AUDIO and change the DRIVER MODE to ASIO. click APPLY. now you should be able to use only the UA-1G for playback and recording and it should eliminate most of the delay you're getting with the input echo.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:13:16
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Yes, I was wrong. I assumed I had to have my headphones plugged into the USB interface and not the computer. It was a dumb mistake from a noob! Anyone know why there is about a second delay between my strumming and then hearing the audio? Thanks!
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:18:27
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Ok, changed it over to asio, now my with echo input back on, I'm not getting the amplitube to work now
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:21:23
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are you plugged into the UA-1G, NOT the laptop?
you should not be using the laptop soundcard at all while the UA-1G is plugged in.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:22:50
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Yes, I am plugged into the AU-1G now
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 12:27:23
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Ok, nevermind....weird. I exited and opened a new track and everything is working now. Thanks for all your help!
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/22 23:13:48
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greg - no I understand that, but your statement here: 57Gregy According to the Help files, you shouldn't have to arm the track to hear effects and softsynths; just clicking the input echo button is all you should have to do. that's what I said was odd. I have never had to click the INPUT ECHO button during playback to hear FX working. if you're just playing the project, not recording, then I don't understand why you have to hit the INPUT ECHO button in order to hear the FX, that doesn't make sense to me and it really doesn't make sense that the help files would tell us to do that since INPUT ECHO is a function of echoing the track with FX for recording. Then I did misunderstand. I thought he was trying to jam through the track with the effect on without recording, just playing along, or sampling the effects without recording, not on playback.
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Re:Effects not working
2011/03/23 08:35:33
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57Gregy
greg - no I understand that, but your statement here: 57Gregy According to the Help files, you shouldn't have to arm the track to hear effects and softsynths; just clicking the input echo button is all you should have to do. that's what I said was odd. I have never had to click the INPUT ECHO button during playback to hear FX working. if you're just playing the project, not recording, then I don't understand why you have to hit the INPUT ECHO button in order to hear the FX, that doesn't make sense to me and it really doesn't make sense that the help files would tell us to do that since INPUT ECHO is a function of echoing the track with FX for recording.
Then I did misunderstand.
I thought he was trying to jam through the track with the effect on without recording, just playing along, or sampling the effects without recording, not on playback.
Ah!!! Ok, now I understand what YOU meant! LOL! in those cases I have always just armed the track and it will play the FX thru. I've never tried just using the INPUT echo button for playing without arming and without playback running.
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