Eleanor Rigby-Notion3

Ok after fooling around for the last month with my new score/orchestral instrument I have finished my first tune.
 
http://soundcloud.com/aaudiomystiks/eleanorrigby
 
I decided to start with The Beatles classic Eleanor Rigby, this was because I had the score (so I thought, The Complete Beatles Score has so many mistakes and it came with no articulation or dynamic markers so I had to really interpret what I had, this includes all the articualtion, staccato notes, dynamics and fix the mistakes as I saw fit).  I also decided on this track because it is pretty simple compared to some classical music.
 
I tried singing the vocal part but because my voice has dropped half a semi-tone I just couldn't hit the notes, I tried importing the track into Reaper to use the Varispeed button just as The Beatles had done so many times when they could not hit the high notes, no luck.  The rhythm of the vocal melody line was just too hard, it didn't help that when I programend the vocal part as a piano line, so I had something to pitch to, was full of mistakes.  I gave up.
 
But that left me with a giant hole in the track without that melody line the track sounded hollow, so I decided to find some sort of vocal synth, something along the lines of the 9th by Beethoven and Clockwork orange.
 
I found this excellent free synth, the only problem it kept crashing Sonar, this is not a Sonar problem but a free VSTi problem.  I couldn't even freeze or save the track without the whole program crashing, I even tried 8.5 and the synth did not even work, no sound.
 
In the end I bounced the track out of one of my external outputs, put a bit of tube compressor over the top and bingo.
 
In the end I am pleased with the results, there are a couple of dud notes maybe you can pick them but I like the track it feels crazy with the synth vocal line almost post modern, ok pretentious wank, I hope you like and enjoy.
 
Peace Ben

Such a surprise to hear this song arranged this way.  Pretty good job on the string arrangement, but the melody change threw me.  You have to be careful when tampering with the Beatles, some people will like it and some won't.  The jury is still out with me, but overall, a nice job.

jamesg1213


 I think you need to fix the melody here and there though, there are some wrong notes as Herb pointed out.
 

I agree... the few bad notes in the melody are killing it for me... the orchestration is excellent though... 

Thanks for listening guys, I can't get anything past you lot, Herb has picked one of the notes, there are a couple of others as well.  I really just wanted your opinon on the quality of the strings as I plan to cut this track up now and try and turn it into a dance number.  I am hoping that I can cut the bad notes as well but I may go back and attempt to fix the vocal line and try and sing the song.

That vocal line is sooo inacurate, couple that with the cello line is almost impossible to read (the book has all the different cello lines all on the same stave, there are three diferent cello lines alltogether.

Ok I have another busy day ahead, I still have to remix Paranoia, thats been sitting on the shelf for the last month and a half, there is this remix, Attention and I have to rebuild the website with a completly different web building program, so yea, more to learn.

Thanks for listening guys, it means a lot.

Peace Ben

Thanks Herb

Ben

Hey Guitarpima thanks for listening, I think I've figured out what one of the dissonant notes is, its in the chorus I've put in a F when it should be an F#, this is the problem when you are bounceing around in two problem.

As for The Beatles won't mind, well it's actually The Twotles now and their respective widows and I don't know about them not minding, those copyrights are worth their weight in gold, somewhere I think from when I last checked, 250,000,000 dollars I think that is how you write two hundered and fifty million dollars numerically.

Thanks for listening Guitarpima hopefully I can force my creative brain to back and fix those few mistakes in the next day or two.

Ben

Huh James, I don't understand now, is that a bad thing or a good thing??

Ben

except for the bad notes this is pretty good.  I'm not too fond of that synth voice myself, tho.  other instruments sound pretty good and are mixed pretty good.

Very interesting.  I thought this was pretty damn cool.  Great job, Ben!

Hi Ben, fun tune this. That synth sounds interesting ; )

Rik

Hi Ben,

This is really cool. The orchestration sounds great and the "off" notes don't seem to bother me for some reason

That was quite well done overall.  I would change the synth personally...maybe even not a vocal synth...just something to carry the melody. 

But hey, it's great, and I can perfectly imagine the hours that went into this.  Sorta makes me think I'm not the only crazy one in the world.  lol

Thanks for putting your life out on the line, Ben!

These are awesome as 'sections', IMHO.  You've MIDI-abstracted that old classic pop song into excellent melodious and rhythmic elements ... the sweet orchestral MIDI synths. 

IOWs, I'd prefer your version (instrumental) over the original ... but I crave a lot more orchestral pomp in some sections ... to make this song like.  (By pomp I think I mean drums and basses)

On 2nd thought, I am glad you replaced the doleful and obsolete (hyper-existential) vocal hook: "aaaaah look 't all dem lonli peeeepl ... where due dey all beelong" (choke choke) ... with gibberish. 

Thanks Ben, for your great tribute to Eleanor!

Yeh Ben, I have a pathetic dark side that 'slips out' oft, much to my own confounding -- hahahah!  I knew that thread would be self-destructive to us neurotics.

But I love your thoughts, music, talent, opinions, etc.  None of us here are better than the next, IMO.  So alls we can do is love the music fwiw ... and throw our lives and hearts out on the limb ... on Songs Forum.  (The other forums are not as "educational" IMHO)

I'm just another old and expendable music and art fanatic who makes a day living clipping toenails.  I realize the exquisite love and talent you have to make a cover of the Beatles.  (I did one of ELO ... borrowed some MIDIs, yes, but pour out 100s of hours into it)

Btw, if you ever need a vocalist or childrens choir for this type of song, we're available ... for fun and for free. 

(or in exchange for royalty free use by either of us).  I've collab'd with a dozen or so here in a timely manner these last 4 years and found it most joyful.

(I'll be posting a song shortly ... which you may hate ... but it will give you an idea of our talent and vibe ... should you ever consider to collab our vocs.  I promise you we will try to be faithful to you (not for $$$).

Hey Bob, thanks for listening.

If anyone else reads this post, I have gone back and fixed the track, Alice now handles lead vocals.  I know what notes are wrong, I forgot to put in the F# key signature in Notion 3.  I shall be mastering it and adding final touches today and tommorow.

I am super happy with the results although I am disapointed I couldn't sing it myself, the perfectionist in me but Alice's singing will blow you away, I hope.

Peace and thanks to all who support the music in the forum down here.  Ben